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Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Brian Williams, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. Erik M

    Erik M Member

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    Model 10-5
    3" light barrel / no underlug
    6 shooter
    K frame
    square grip

    C736936
     
  2. Radagast
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    Erik M:
    1963 to 1965, serial range for those years was C622700 to C810532. The earliest reference to a 3 inch Model 10-5 in the Standard Catalog of S&W is a special order for HH Harris & Co of Chicago in 1967, there was also a 10-5 for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, marked RMCP and a 10-5 3 inch tapered barrel for the French police in the D828xxx range. Unfortunately none of these seem to firt with your gun.
     
  3. pabner

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    a) .38 Special
    b) 4”
    c) Square
    d) 6
    e) Adjustable
    f) 79K85xx
    g) 15-4
     
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    pabner:
    Your Model 15-4 Combat Masterpiece was manufactured in 1980.
     
  5. Gladius

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    Here's a new old one... a 38-44!

    a. .38 Special
    b. 6.5 inch barrel
    c. Square
    d. 6
    e. Fixed
    f. S 154646

    No model number in the crane.
     
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    Gladius:
    Your 38-44 Heavy Duty Model of 1950 was manufactured in 1956. Model numbers were introduced in 1957.
     
  7. waidmann

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    Hi Radagast,
    Trying to help someone with a theft report, there is a quirk sorting out exactly what it is.
    It is an N-frame, currently .45 ACP, last patent date 1908, crummy photo shows and unshrouded ejector rod. I'm guessing a 5.5 inch barrel but they say no 1917 markings.
    Serial number 56,388.
    Please give what you can. Converted .455? Commercial 1917? Whatever.

    Thanks,
    Waidmann
     
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    Last patent date on the 1917 was Sep.14 1909. Serial number would make it a 1918 gun if a Model of 1917. SCSW notes some commercial models shipped,doesn't state wether these were during the war or post war. If a commercial model there will be a small S&W logo on the left side of the frame. 5.5 inch barrel was standard.

    Otherwise it is a .455 Mark II Hand Ejector. Last patent date should be feb 6 1906. SCSW notes many were converted to .45 Auto Rim or to .45 Colt. There should be a large S&W logo on the side plate. Look for the broad arrow, crossed flags or Not English Made stamps, or British proof marks. Serial range between 5000 & 74755 manufactured 1915 to 1917. 6.5 inch barrel was standard.
    If you have a photo of the rear of the cylinder and there is no serial number on the cylinder face then the cylinder has been cut down to suit moonclips / auto-rim cases.
     
  9. waidmann

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    Thanks Radagast,
    I appreciate your imput.

    Waidmann's heil
     
  10. birdshooter

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    Here's a new one:

    45 ACP
    4"
    Square
    6 shot
    Fixed Sight
    TRR17XX
    22-4

    Thanks!
     
  11. wrs840

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    Hi Radagast,

    a) " .22 LONG RIFLE CTG. "
    b) 4”
    c) Square
    d) 6 shot
    e) Adjustable
    f) K7559xx
    g) 18-2

    Thanks again in advance!
     
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    wrs840:
    Your Model 18-2 K22 Combat Masterpiece was manufactured in 1967. When you get tired of it send it to me. I've the only Model 18 I've ever seen in Australia & I need a spare. :p

    Birdshooter:
    Your Model 22-4 Thunder Ranch Special was manufactured in 2005. Product code was 161239.
     
  13. wrs840

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    Thanks Radagast, I'll keep you in mind ;). Even from my crappy iphone pic, you may be able to see it's in outstanding shape. It has zero holster-wear, and only a couple of what looks like gun-rug zipper-nicks on the back end of the grips. Lock-up is near "welded". I bought it today and shot it as soon as I got home. Because of good folks like you at THR, I knew it was a special find as soon as I saw it.
     

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  14. Sealevel

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    Good evening Radagast,

    a. .357 Magnum
    b. 3 in.
    c. Round
    d. 6
    e. Fixed
    f. BKZ8819
    g. 65-5

    Thank you once again.
     
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    Sealevel:
    Your .357 magnum Military & Police Stainless was manufactured in 1994.

    wrs840:
    That is a lovely find. Congratations!
     
  16. chromerunner

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    Model 1917
    No 98214
    s&w DA 45
    6 shot
    square grip
     
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    Good afternoon Radagast,

    a. .22
    b. 6 in.
    c. Square
    d. 6
    e. Adjustable
    f. 3K28120
    g. 17-3

    Again thanks!
     
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    Sealevel:
    Your Model 17-3 K22 Masterpiece was manufactured in 1971.

    Chrome Runner: Between April 1918 & January 1919.
     
  19. wlewisiii

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    Just got back from a show where I picked up

    a: .38 Special
    b: 4" pencil barrel
    c: square butt
    d: 6 shot
    e: fixed sights
    f: 9D06357
    g: 10-7

    Thanks!
     
  20. Great_Gazoo

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    Black 686 and wondering about date

    Hey guys. New to the forum and picked up a 686 for $300. Now I found out that a black 686 might be a little rare or the national security model depending on when it was manufactured.

    a) .357 mag
    b) 4
    c) square
    d) 6
    e) front fixed/read adj
    f) one side says 1867 and the other side says 4 1x 94682 also an e9 stamped in. on the bottom it says bbm6837. A sticker just fell off under the grip and under it is stamped a "S".
    g) 686-2

    Thanks all

    Dave
     
  21. AMMO&GUNS

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    Had it for Years...

    A. 357
    B. 2.5" BBL
    C. SMALL ROUND BUTT
    D. FIXED RAMP FRONT, ADJUSTABLE REAR BLADE
    E. 1K539XX
    F. MODEL 19-3

    Frame is polished nickel. Cylinder, bbl,front sight and rear sights all highly polished Smith & Wesson Blue. Hammer and Trigger are Heat Treat color. Gun is 99%, I was told that it has something to do with the Peruvian Police or??
    Any info greatly appreciated.. had it since mid-70's and never shot it.
    What a great forum this is...Thanks

    Eric
     
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    AMMO & GUNS:
    Your Model 19-3 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1971. The 2.5 inch barrel had been a factory standard item since 1966. Nickel was a standard finish. Color case hardening of hammers and triggers was standard on all blued and nickeled S&Ws with flash chrome available on stainless guns.The Peruvian guns were manufactured in 1987 & had fixed sights.
    Basically you have a standard Model 19. Not particularly rare, but in 99% condition it is highly desirable to many collectors & shooters.

    Great Gazoo:
    BBM6837 is the serial number, it indicates your Model 686-2 Distinguished Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1988. The other numbers and markings are assembly numbers, used to track parts in the factory. They were not recorded and have no meaning after the gun is assembled.
    The 4 inch midnight black stainless 686 was a limited run gun made in 1988 with 1559 manufactured. Product code was 104250. Original retail price was $445.00.

    wlewisiii:
    Your Model 10-7 .38 Military & Police Tapered Barrel was manufactured in 1981.
     
  23. champ62

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    DOB

    Need a DOB please

    .38 special
    Model 10
    s/n AFW8612
    wood grips, no diamond
    lanyard ring at bottom of grip
    C & E 1738 stamped at back of grip
    blued finish, about 98%
    fixed sights

    Thanks
     
  24. AMMO&GUNS

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    Thanks for the information on the Snubby Smith... were the two tone guns rare or common? i never saw one before and i have a drawer full of Smiths.
    again thanks, much appreciated..
    eric
     
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    AMMO&GUNS:
    Yes, Pintos (two toned S&W revolvers) are quite rare. I think I've seen a total of 3 photos (no real guns) of a Pinto in the last 25 years. I missed that part of your description on my first glance at your post.
    If you have $50 to spare to satisfy your curiosity I suggest you contact Mr Roy Jinks at S&W and have him research the original shipping records to find out wether your gun was a factory special order. He will send you a letter telling you when it shipped, who it shipped to and what configuration it was ordered in.

    champ62:
    That serial number places your gun in late 1984. The markings on the backstrap indicate your gun is one ordered by the royal Hong Kong Police in 1983 and later traded back to S&W against a new order. They were late sold to the civilian market through Accusport in Ohio.
     

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