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Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Brian Williams, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. Radagast
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    evets_56_98:
    Your Model 10-8 .38 Military & Police heavy barrel was manufactured in 1981.
     
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    Thank you much Radagast,knew they were produced I think between 1977 n 1988
     
  3. littlerichard

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    born on date/value

    chromed
    4inch
    32 long
    fixed front/groove rear
    plastic?round butt
    330xxx
    rough bore some freckling good mechanically
     
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    littlerichard:
    You have a .32 Hand Ejector Third Model manufactured 1922-1924, with 1923 being likely. Guns were not always shipped sequentially then, with serial number 379160 shipping in October 1923 & serial number 327xx shipping in December 1923.
     
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    Thank you Radagast, any idea the value ranges?
     
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    Probably $150-$250 maximum if the bore is pitted. I'm far from an expert on US prices, being an Aussie. My knowledge of prices comes mainly from discussions on this forum, so take that estimate with a grain of salt.
    The grips are hard rubber, not plastic. Plastic fake stag and fake mother of pearl grips became popular in the 1950s.
     
  7. littlerichard

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    Radagst, thanks again for the info. The fellow that had this revolver said he had been offered $750. I told him politely that if he's offered that again he should jump on it. My thoughts were like you. Tops $250.
     
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    Here we go. In 2006 the Standard Catalog of S&W gave a value of $165 in fair condition, $275 in good, $315 in very good, $700 for new in the box.
    With well over half a million .32 Hand Ejectors out there in a now unpopular and uncommon caliber, I doubt the values have changed much.
     
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    S & W revolver

    I have an old Smith:

    ".38 S. & W. Special & U. S. Service Ctgs."
    5-inch barrel; 6-shooter
    under the crane is stamped: G6260
    on the butt is stamped: 22360

    first patent date appears to be Apr. 9, '89; last patent date appears to be Dec.1, 01

    Pistol is tight as new. Light flecking rust on surface, small amount of original blue. Bore is dark but sharp.
     
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    judgedelta:
    You have a .38 Military & Police 2nd Model / Model of 1902, manufactured 1902-1903 in the serial range 20976-33803.
    the U.S Service Ctg refers to the .38 Long Colt cartridge, which was at the time the issued round of the US military. S&W were not going to stamp 'Colt' on their guns.

    That model predates heat treatment of cylinders, so don't use jacketed, PlusP or +P+ rounds in it. standard pressure .38 special 158 grain lead round nose or 148 grain wad cutters would have been the available rounds at the time it was made.

    It also predates the internal hammer block safety that makes modern revolvers drop safe, so I would treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
    Even with minimal finish it should be of interest to a collector due to its age and relative rarity.
    I suggest you ask in the gunsmithing section for info on removing the rust without removing the patina of age, as that would destroy its collectors value.
     
  11. Ordie

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    I have a older M&P here, please provide some details for me.

    1) ".38 S. & W. Special & U. S. Service Ctgs."
    2) 6.5-inch barrel; 6-shooter
    3) Blue (~30% remains on the frame)
    4) Round butt
    5) 6 shot
    5) 54xxx

    The action is tight and smooth small amount of "old" shallow pitting on exterior. Bore looks pretty good.

    What do you think?
     
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    Ordie:
    You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1902 1st Change manufactured in 1903 or 1904. Serial range for those years was 33804 to 62449.
    Your description means it would be rated as 'good condition' with value probably in the $220-250 band.

    U.S Service Ctg refers to the .38 Long Colt cartridge, which was at the time the issued round of the US military. S&W were not going to stamp 'Colt' on their guns.

    That model predates heat treatment of cylinders, so don't use jacketed, PlusP or +P+ rounds in it. standard pressure .38 special 158 grain lead round nose or 148 grain wad cutters would have been the available rounds at the time it was made.

    It also predates the internal hammer block safety that makes modern revolvers drop safe, so I would treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
     
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    Radagast,
    Thats' great! I have a 100 year old M&P. That's cool.
    Thanks very much
    Ordie
     
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    masterpiece

    8 3/8 barrel blued
    38spl
    target sights, hammer and trigger
    Sn k351xxx
     
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    Your Model 14 K38 Masterpiece was manufactured in 1959. Serial numbers for that year started at K350548, so early in the year is likely.
    1959 was the first year of production for the 8 & 3/8 inch barrel.
     
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    Radagast
    Thanks again for all the invaluable information you provide us here on THR.
    Is the 14 masterpiece 8 3/8 a common gun? I just purchased it and intend to shoot it often either way. Just curious.
     
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    Nope. The majority of production was the six inch barrel. I can only recall three being posted with the longer barrel in my ten plus years on this forum. Not that they were the only ones, but the only ones I noticed.
     
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    Hi
    Thought I would find out the age of these two.
    thanks in advance.

    mod 67 no dash
    4" 38spl.
    square
    5K96xxx

    mod 640 no dash
    1 7/8" 38spl.
    round
    BKB2xxx
     
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    aladdin:
    Your Model 67 .38 Combat Masterpiece Stainless was manufactured in 1974.
    Your Model 640 .38 Centennial Stainless was manufactured in 1991.
     
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    date of mfg. please:

    Mod. 629-5
    4" barrel
    round butt
    SN: CEB4143

    Thanks, JD
     
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    judgedelta:
    Your Model 629-5 .44 magnum Stainless was manufactured 2000. If marked 'Mountain Gun' with a tapered barrel then it is a short run variant.
     
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    My brother was given this S&W .M&P, .38 , six rounds, Serial # C65643 on the butt. Can you date this for me? It's in pretty fair condition. I guessed it to be around late 40's , early 50's. Thank you.
     
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    Can anyone suggest a date on my Model 10? The crane is marked MOD-10. (No further dashes or numbers.). Barrel measures approx 2". Ramp sight. Serial number on butt is C500xxx. It does have a screw in the trigger guard. I'm thinking 1961-1962? Thanks in advance for any thoughts on its age.
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    Olderbutwiser:
    Your .38 Military & Police Postwar was manufactured in the period 1948-1951, serial range for those years was C1 to C223998. So if I had to guess it would be early 1949.

    Derry 1946:
    Your Model 10 .38 military & Police does date to 1961 or 1962. Serial range for those years was C474149 to C622699. Combine the low serial number with the fact that the Model 10-2 replaced the Model 10 in 1961, which was then replaced by the 10-4 in 1962 and its fairly safe to say your gun is from 1961.
     
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    Thanks for the date info Pics. of the subject guns

    1974 model 67 and 1991 640
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