dbmjr1
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Colt Commando .38spl.
Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers
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Colt Commando .38spl.
rcmodel
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If you want to know anything about it?
You will have to provide the serial number, and any other marking on the gun.
Or, was that the question?
rc
You will have to provide the serial number, and any other marking on the gun.
Or, was that the question?
rc
robhof
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robhof
I had real good luck with S&W customer service; I got an Airweight on GB and wanted to know the date and if it could handle +P loads. They sent me a reply with the date of manufacture and that it definitely isn't made for +P, which is fine, since it is pretty snappy with standard loads.
I had real good luck with S&W customer service; I got an Airweight on GB and wanted to know the date and if it could handle +P loads. They sent me a reply with the date of manufacture and that it definitely isn't made for +P, which is fine, since it is pretty snappy with standard loads.
Kernel
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dbmjr1,
Nice old Colt.
You thought this was maybe "The Revolver Picture thread of all time"?
It's not.
Nice old Colt.
You thought this was maybe "The Revolver Picture thread of all time"?
It's not.
rcmodel
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Check the Serial # again.
The R series Model 60 & 651 serial number range started at:
R001 in 1969.
And ended at R329001 in 1983.
Are you sure it isn't R302xxx?
rc
The R series Model 60 & 651 serial number range started at:
R001 in 1969.
And ended at R329001 in 1983.
Are you sure it isn't R302xxx?
rc
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Snake Plisskin
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Could you tell me any info about my Smith Wesson Model 66 4" s/n AUS91XX , thanks again for your help.
Radagast
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Snake Plisskin:
That serial number should date your gun to 1987, which would make it a Model 66-3.
Ignacio49, as rcmodel mentioned, the Model 60 R prefix serial numbers should have ended in the 3xxxxx range in 1983, then switched to the AAAxxxx format. The pinned barrel was deleted in 1982, but no dash designation was given.
Basically the Model 60 no dash was produced from 1965 to 1988, the 60-1 was a three inch heavy barrel from 1972, the 60-2 was a NYPD special order from 1987. So no dash and no barrel pin is correct from 1982 on.
That serial number should date your gun to 1987, which would make it a Model 66-3.
Ignacio49, as rcmodel mentioned, the Model 60 R prefix serial numbers should have ended in the 3xxxxx range in 1983, then switched to the AAAxxxx format. The pinned barrel was deleted in 1982, but no dash designation was given.
Basically the Model 60 no dash was produced from 1965 to 1988, the 60-1 was a three inch heavy barrel from 1972, the 60-2 was a NYPD special order from 1987. So no dash and no barrel pin is correct from 1982 on.
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Kernel
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SN: DAN83XX
BLU,
I don't have a DANXXXX in my s/n collection. Do you still have the factory box? If so, there's a date code on it that will give you the exact day, month, and year.
Yes.... she does have the box. I'll check that. Thank you!
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SN: DAN83XX
BLU,
I don't have a DANXXXX in my s/n collection. Do you still have the factory box? If so, there's a date code on it that will give you the exact day, month, and year.
Yes.... she does have the box. I'll check that. Thank you!
Radagast
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BLU:
If you could post the date then Kernel & I can update our respective lists and better answer future queries.
If you could post the date then Kernel & I can update our respective lists and better answer future queries.
Kernel
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A product code would be great, too!
chromerunner
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Radagast
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chromerunner:
You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change manufactured between 1927 & 1929.
It has a heat treated cylinder so it should be safe with standard pressure and PlusP ammunition, although S&W discourage use of PlusP in guns not stamped with model numbers.
It predates the positive hammer block safety introduced after a fatality with a dropped gun in 1944. I would treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change manufactured between 1927 & 1929.
It has a heat treated cylinder so it should be safe with standard pressure and PlusP ammunition, although S&W discourage use of PlusP in guns not stamped with model numbers.
It predates the positive hammer block safety introduced after a fatality with a dropped gun in 1944. I would treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
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7 shot stainless 357 mag smith and wesson revolver , round grip, serial number CVT8510
7 shot stainless 357 mag smith and wesson revolver , round grip, serial number CVT8510
Kernel
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2014. Probably, one or two months old.
BLU
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RADAGAST... The pistol belongs to my Daughter. I asked her for the box info but she was busy with her 4 kids, (a newborn, a one year old and the 3 & 5 year olds! Gees... glad her Hubby works!). I may never get the info to forward to you but I'll keep trying. LOL!
I do have another in my safe I forgot to ask about: A Smith & Wesson, Model: 25-3, SN: S&W2436, Barrel length: 6.5
I do have another in my safe I forgot to ask about: A Smith & Wesson, Model: 25-3, SN: S&W2436, Barrel length: 6.5
Radagast
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BLU:
Your Model 25-3 1955 Model .45 Target Heavy Barrel should be one of the S&W 125th Anniversary Commemorative production run.
Standard edition, 9948 guns made, in the serial range S&W1 to S&W10000. Caliber .45 Colt. 6.5 inch barrel, bright blue finish, 125th anniversary seal on side plate, barrel marked "Smith & Wesson 125th Anniversary", gold filled. smooth Goncalo Alves (rosewood) target stocks with nickel plated medallions, red ramp front sight, white outline rear, in a mahogany presentation case with nickel silver 125th anniversary medallion. Manufactured 1977.
Your Model 25-3 1955 Model .45 Target Heavy Barrel should be one of the S&W 125th Anniversary Commemorative production run.
Standard edition, 9948 guns made, in the serial range S&W1 to S&W10000. Caliber .45 Colt. 6.5 inch barrel, bright blue finish, 125th anniversary seal on side plate, barrel marked "Smith & Wesson 125th Anniversary", gold filled. smooth Goncalo Alves (rosewood) target stocks with nickel plated medallions, red ramp front sight, white outline rear, in a mahogany presentation case with nickel silver 125th anniversary medallion. Manufactured 1977.
Radagast, Can you tell me what I've got. My grandfathers, I've heard it spent a lot of time riding on the floor of his Model A ford, it looks it. Actually fairly tight, some pitting in the bore. 38 S&W special roll marked on the other side of barrel. Serial No. 286xxx.
Radagast
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Shimitup:
You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change, manufactured sometime between 1915 (serial number 241704) & September 1919 (serial number 316648). My guess would be 1916 or early 1917, as war production of the larger N frame for the US Army would have taken precedent from late 1917.
It predates heat treatment of cylinders, so stick to standard pressure lead only loads. It also predates the positive hammer block safety introduced in 1944 after a fatality with a dropped gun, so I recommend treating it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
The grips are period correct, the finish appears to be original.
You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change, manufactured sometime between 1915 (serial number 241704) & September 1919 (serial number 316648). My guess would be 1916 or early 1917, as war production of the larger N frame for the US Army would have taken precedent from late 1917.
It predates heat treatment of cylinders, so stick to standard pressure lead only loads. It also predates the positive hammer block safety introduced in 1944 after a fatality with a dropped gun, so I recommend treating it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
The grips are period correct, the finish appears to be original.
S&W date of manufacture?
I have an S&W revolver that has Smith & Wesson on one side of the barrel and 38 S. & W. CTG stamped on the other side of the barrel. The serial# is 820XX. (No letters)
Can you tell me the date this revolver was manufactured/shipped or point me to a website with that information please?
I have an S&W revolver that has Smith & Wesson on one side of the barrel and 38 S. & W. CTG stamped on the other side of the barrel. The serial# is 820XX. (No letters)
Can you tell me the date this revolver was manufactured/shipped or point me to a website with that information please?
Radagast
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JEW-III.
If the gun is a top break, with exposed hammer, then it is a .38 Double Action 2nd Model, manufactured between 1880 & 1884. This is a black powder only proposition and should be treated as a 4 shooter, with the chamber under the hammer left empty.
If the gun is a top break with enclosed hammer, then it is a .38 Safety Hammerless 3rd Model manufactured between 1890 & 1894. This is also a black powder model, but should be safe to carry with all chambers loaded.
If the gun has a swing out cylinder and 5 chambers, then it is a .38 Regulation Police (4 inch barrel) or .38/32 Terrier (two inch barrel). These are post war guns, if there is no model number stamped under the cylinder yoke then they fall in the period 1948-1957.
If it has a leaf mainspring (there will be a tension screw in the front strap of the grip) then 1948-1953.
If a coil mainspring (no tension screw) then 1953-1957.
If there is a screw holding the side plate in front of the hammer, then 1955 or earlier.
If no screw, then 1955-1957.
With the above you can narrow its age down to within a couple of years. Postwar guns have a positive hammer block safety and can be carried fully loaded. They are suitable for use with modern ammunition.
If the gun is a top break, with exposed hammer, then it is a .38 Double Action 2nd Model, manufactured between 1880 & 1884. This is a black powder only proposition and should be treated as a 4 shooter, with the chamber under the hammer left empty.
If the gun is a top break with enclosed hammer, then it is a .38 Safety Hammerless 3rd Model manufactured between 1890 & 1894. This is also a black powder model, but should be safe to carry with all chambers loaded.
If the gun has a swing out cylinder and 5 chambers, then it is a .38 Regulation Police (4 inch barrel) or .38/32 Terrier (two inch barrel). These are post war guns, if there is no model number stamped under the cylinder yoke then they fall in the period 1948-1957.
If it has a leaf mainspring (there will be a tension screw in the front strap of the grip) then 1948-1953.
If a coil mainspring (no tension screw) then 1953-1957.
If there is a screw holding the side plate in front of the hammer, then 1955 or earlier.
If no screw, then 1955-1957.
With the above you can narrow its age down to within a couple of years. Postwar guns have a positive hammer block safety and can be carried fully loaded. They are suitable for use with modern ammunition.
Derry 1946
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Hello! Any idea of approximate date of manufacture of a SW Model 19-5 .357 magnum 6-round revolver, number 201Kxxx? 1982? Thanks!
Derry
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Radagast
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Derry 1946:
Your Model 19-5 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1982.
Your Model 19-5 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1982.
