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Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Brian Williams, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. Radagast
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    knee-dragger777:
    Assuming a six shot gun, in .38 S&W Special, then it is either a K frame or an N frame.
    The N frame serial range would have an S or N before the number, so it appears you have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change, manufactured between September 1919 (serial no 316648) & December 1920 (serial number 358xxx).
    It has a heat treated cylinder, so it should be safe to fire with any standard pressure load. I would not shoot PlusP ammunition through such an old gun, as over the years I've seen a few reports of bulged cylinders and barrels from that time period.
    It lacks the positive internal hammer block safety introduced after a fatality with a dropped gun in WWII, so I would treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
     
  2. Schofield3

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    New century 1st model

    I believe I have a 1st model triple lock but would greatly appreciate some confirmation:

    a) 44 special
    b) 6.5" barrel length
    c) square grips shape
    d) 6 shot
    e) fixed iron sights
    f) serial number, 10167 from bottom of grip

    I would be super interested in learning what year of manufacture it is. thanks guys in advance!
     
  3. Radagast
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    Schofield3:
    You will need a factory letter to get an exact D.O.B.
    What I can tell you is that your gun does fall in the correct range for a .44 Hand Ejector 1st Model, also known as the New Century, Triple-lock, .44 Military & Model of 1908.
    Manufacture started in 1907 & serial number 118xx shipped 23rd October 1915, which leads me to believe your gun shipped in 1915.
     
  4. Schofield3

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    New century 1st model

    here's a pic:
    20140706_180947.jpg
     
  5. Schofield3

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    Radagast thank you for such a timely response and WOW 1915 that is a good deal earlier than I had thought!
     
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    Original grips & finish. I'd be pleased to own that old classic.
     
  7. Schofield3

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    It was quite by chance that I ended up owning this classic S&W condition is 100% original and it is mechanically perfect, I do hope to shoot it one day but for right now she is well cared for and cozy :)
     
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    Thanks, Radagast!
     
  9. g_one

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    I could use some help here...
    a) .38spl
    b) 1.875"
    c) round butt
    d) 5 shot
    e) fixed
    f) SN on the bottom of the grip: 60J92
    g) 36

    Additional information:
    Old. Blue cardboard box packed in with brown wax paper. Looks blued, heavy finish wear. Original grips are wood, with a silver and gold (colored) S&W medallion
     
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  10. Radagast
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    g_one:
    Your Model 36 Chiefs Special was manufactured in 1971. Silver colored hollow ground medallions were used until 1973, so probably original. An original box from that time period will have "A Bangor Punta company" printed on it.
     
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    Thanks very much!
     
  12. MacBean

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    Hi, New to the Forum.

    Smith and Wesson Model 1899

    38 special
    6 1/2" barrel
    round butt
    6 shot
    fixed sight
    ser # 15051
    K frame

    Can you tell me the date of manufacture?
    It was never re-blued but the finish has browned over the years.
    Thanks for any help.
     
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    Got this one too. Also original grips and finish.

    Smith and Wesson model 1902 HE M&P 2nd model, 1st change ( I think )

    32-20
    5" barrel
    round butt
    6 shot
    fixed sights
    Ser # 16511
    K

    Can anyone tell me the year of manufacture?
    The 1899 that I have has walnut grips. This one has the plastic grips.
    I probably paid the high end price on these, but I now have them and am thrilled with them.
    Thanks again for any help.
     
  14. MacBean

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    Smith and Wesson Outdoorsman
    22lr
    6" barrel
    square butt
    6 shot
    adjustable sight
    ser. # 639471
    K
    Any info on this one would be appreciated.
    Date the revolver was made ?
    Thanks again.
     
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    Smith and Wesson Model 34-1
    22lr
    4" barrel
    square butt
    6 shot
    adjustable sight
    Serial # M28728
    J frame
    Would like to know the year it was made.
    Thanks.
     
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    I am wondering about the age of my favorite Smith I picked it up min a Pawn Shop in 1999, with the original box , in Excellent condition, I took of the small grips and put on a new mfg pair from S&W

    38 special
    4" barrel
    adjustable rear sight
    pinned barrel
    black finish
    6 rounds
    serial # 3k10963
    model 15-3
     
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    JoelSteinbach:
    Your Model 15-3 Combat Masterpiece was manufactured in 1971.

    MacBean:
    Your Model 34-1 .22/.32 Kit Gun falls in the serial range for 1969 to 1971, (M1 to M30000) with 1971 being most likely. The -1 in the model number refers to a change from the old .32 caliber size I frame (hence .22/.32, a .22 on a .32 frame) to the slightly larger .38 sized J frame.

    Your .22 Outdoorsman / K22 First Model is a rare beast and highly collectable. It falls into the period between January 1931, when the model was introduced at serial number 632124, and 1933 (serial number 644xxx).

    Your 32-20 Hand Ejector, if it has a locking lug under the barrel, is a Model of 1903 and was manufactured in 1903 or 1904. If it lacks the locking lug then it is a Model of 1896 and falls into the date range 1896 to 1901.

    Your .38 Military & Police 1st Model / Model of 1899 Army & Navy Revolver was manufactured in 1901 or 1902.

    For exact shipping dates you will need to invest $50 per gun to obtain a factory letter from S&W that will tell you where it was shipped to, on what date and in what configuration.
     
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    Thanks for the info Radagast
     
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    Thanks for the info. It is greatly appreciated. The outdoorsman has a lot of blue wear but functions flawlessly. It is extremely accurate. Thanks again.
     
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    MacBean:
    if the grips on the .32-20 have a S&W monogramme then they are almost certainly original to the gun and made of vulcanized rubber, not plastic. They may be brittle with age, so take care, especially if removing them.
    Don't re-blue any of these old guns, it will destroy the value to collectors.
     
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    They do have the S&W monogram on them. No plan to re-blue them. I know where there is a S&W model 1903 38 that is really cool but has been re-blued somewhere in it's lifetime. It was offered to me for $300 and I almost bought it, but did not. Thanks again for your help. This forum has been very helpful.
     
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    Radagast,

    Also wanted to add that the 32-20 does have the locking lug under the barrel. Thanks.
     
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    Could you please give some info on my Smith and Wesson 4" Model 19-4 Combat Magnum ( P&R with TH, TT ) S/N 44K9XXX , thank you
     
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    Snake Plisskin;
    Your Model 19-4 Combat magnum was manufactured in 1978 or 1979. Serial range for those years was 25K0001 to 56K9999, so 1979 seems likely.
     
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    a) .22
    b) 6"
    c) square
    d) 6
    e) Adjustable
    f) K844xxx
    g) 17-3



    Edit - After a better search of the thread it looks like 1968?
     
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