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Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Brian Williams, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. Eureka40

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    Just picked up a 65-5. Serial # CBS37xx

    Any info would be much appreciated.
     
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    star77:
    Your Model 686-1 Distinguished Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1986. lack of an M stamp means it is subject to a recall. With some magnum ammo the primer can flow back into the firing pin bushing, locking the gun. S&W will pay shipping both ways and install a new firing pin and bushing.
     
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    Eureka40:
    Your Model 65-5 .357 Military & Police Heavy Barrel Stainless was manufactured in 1997.
     
  4. Eureka40

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    Radagast, thanks so much for the info. I really appreciate that!!
     
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    Old 32 long revolver

    OK, here goes, 6 shot swing out cylinder, double action revolver, Cylinder measures 1 1/4", I frame? Cal. 32 long, 4 screws plus 1 in front of trigger guard, S&W logo below the cylinder release. No patent dates,"Made in USA, Marcas Registradas, Smith&Wesson, Springfield,Mass. on right side on frame in front of trigger quard. 3 1/4" bbl, bbl is pinned, fixed sights, front is forged half moon blade. The knurled end of ejector rod is same diameter as the rod.Has aftermarket pearl/ivory Franzite grips, and is a square butt, but the grip frame is slightly rounded at the butt end and the grips don't fit exactly, maybe a round butt?.Under the grips it has a coil spring main spring. Ser. # is on the bottom of butt, 564,1xx, same numbers on rear face of cylinder, and behind ejector, no letter suffix.

    This gun was owned by my father before 1952 at least, Some of the features seem to be for a 32HE, and some for a 32 reg. police, Any info is greatly appreciated, Thank You for your time.
     
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    gcs:
    I'm fairly certain your gun dates to 1956.
    The upper side plate screw was officially deleted at serial number 640980 in that year, but old parts were used up after that serial number. The half moon front sight was replaced that year with a serrated ramp and in the following year, 1957, model numbers were introduced and stamped in the cylinder yoke cut.
    It has the post war hammer block safety and can be carried with all chambers loaded.
    Both the .32 Hand Ejector and .32 Regulation Police had a 3.25 inch barrel and fixed sights on the round butt I frame.
    The Regulation Police had a step in the back strap that allowed fitting of square to round butt adapter stocks. The .32 Hand Ejector did not have that step.
    Removing your current grips will allow you to confirm which gun you have.
     
  7. gcs

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    Thanks Mate! :)
     
  8. sonofagun

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    Help in Identity of S&W 38 Revolver

    Hopefully the pictures are view-able. This pistol has a two inch barrel with rounded grips. It is a top break 5 shot. The number on the cylinder is 302291, I think. The number on the grip of the frame is L.46. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you.
     

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    41 rem mag
    6 cyl
    6 inch bbl
    Square butt
    Target adjustable sights
    Model 41
    Ser N774xxx
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    lyytinen:
    Your Model 57 .41 Magnum Target was manufactured in 1980.

    sonofagun:
    Assuming the caliber is .38 S&W, then you have a .38 Double Action 3rd Model, manufactured between 1892 & 1895.
    The serial number should be found on the bottom of the grip frame. It was also duplicated on the cylinder and the barrel. A two inch gun without a serial number and a barrel pin has probably been re-barreled or cut down.
    The number on the back strap is probably a police or security rack number, these were issued by several police depts. and the American Express company.
     
  11. sonofagun

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    Thank you Radagast

    I wasn't sure what I was seeing on top of the barrel until I got your reply. It does appear the address has been shortened and the front sight sits right on top of it. Behind the site are the letters ELD MASS U.S.A. My dad referred to this pistol as his "summer" gun as he used it during the hot summers in southern Virginia as a small town police officer. Other times he used a larger 38 spl. If your dates are correct, maybe I won't continue shooting it. It works fine. Thank you for that information.
     
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    It's a black powder gun. Modern ammo is kept to the same maximum pressures, but has a different pressure curve, which may lead to rapid wear.
    I would suggest loading with blackpowder or a commercial blackpowder substitute.
     
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    How about this Radagast: Not marked as such, but obviously a M10.

    #C 394647
     
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    dogrunner:
    That will be a .38 Military & Police Postwar, the pre-model 10, manufactured 1954-1956 in the serial range C277555 to C402923.
     
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    Thank you!!
     
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    Dogrunner:
    Just to add, with that serial number its almost certainly from 1956, the last year before model numbers were introduced.
     
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    Model 19, no dash, four screw. S/N K436410...Diamond Target Grips, not numbered to the gun, no numbers at all on them.
     
  18. Dickieray

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    25-2

    S&W model 25-2
    45acp
    6 shot
    6 1/2" from barrel tip to front of cylinder
    square frame
    Serial # N460256
    adjustable sights
     

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    CajunBass:
    1961, the grips are period correct.

    Dickieray:
    your Model 25-2 / Model 1955 .45 Heavy Barrel Target was manufactured in 1977 or 1978. My guess is 1978.
     
  20. rugershooter45colt

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    I inherited this old S&W. Wish it could talk.

    1-.38 Special
    2-4" barrel
    3-square butt

    No model #
    Only # that I can make out is on the bottom of barrel above ejector rod. No prefix:
    471xxx

    There is also a different # stamped on the inside of the grip.

    Appears to be a very used Model 10. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks


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    rugershooter45colt:
    You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change manufactured around 1926-1927.
    This is the predecessor to the Model 10. It uses the 'long action', which was replaced after WWII with the current short action, so parts are not interchangeable.
    The grips are S&W diamond Magnas, which were introduced around 1936, IIRC. I would guess they are post war replacements for the originals.
    This gun lacks the positive internal hammer block introduced after a fatality with a dropped gun in 1944. I would recommend treating it as a 5 shooter, leaving the hammer down on an empty cylinder.
     
  22. Ateam-3

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    Victory model?

    Caliber ??? 38 S&W or 38/200
    5" barrel
    Square butt
    Plastic grips
    Fixed blade front sight
    Serial No. V 530xxx

    Finish appears to be parkerized. Pinned barrel. The pistol has various stamps on the barrel, frame and cylinder; possibly inspector marks or British ID marks.

    Any information on date of manufacture, stamp ID and caliber information is appreciated.
     

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    Ateam-3:
    You have a British Service Revolver, manufactured around 1943. The Victory Model was the .38 special version for US issue.
    the Crown BNP stamp is the Birmingham Proof House stamp for smokeless powder (Birmingham Nitro Proof).
    .38/200 refers to the British service load, a 200 grain lead bullet in a .38 S&W case. The .38 S&W was also known as .380 Revolver in Britain.
    The .38.767" refers to the caliber and case length, IIRC.
    31/2 Tons refers to the proof load used. Britain used tons instead of pounds when designating loads.
    The grips are not original, as smooth walnut was used during the war.

    Check the chambers as a lot of these guns were bored out to accept .38 Special and sold via mail order after the war. The rear of the chamber on converted guns is oversize, so bulged or cracked cases are possible. If it has been converted it has minimal value and should be kept to a diet of standard pressure lead loads.
    If original, then there is some collector value, although not as much as for the Victory Model.
     
  24. Ateam-3

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    Thank you for all of the information.
     
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    looking at a 455 hand ejector British service 455 mark II N 6 inch barrel. serial number, I was told serial number is 212xx. That's all that I have. Hope it works. the revolver has been nickel plated.
     

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