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Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by WestKentucky, Jun 13, 2018.

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  1. WestKentucky

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    California has once again managed to get itself in a voting position to try to split. With legal process aside, how would the three chunks be gun-wise? I feel like if this could potentially bring back some of the rights of the northern and eastern hunks...the coastal critters are pretty well voting themselves into oblivion. This might be a thing that could work.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...nia-three-states-initiative-ballot/index.html
     
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    Well, the article speaks of dividing up into "more manageable populations". What does THAT mean? It needs more manageable government, ie: drastically less government spending. The State of California is hopelessly in spiralling debt.

    Splitting it up might achieve better control on spending, and perhaps a more favorable approach to firearms in one split off or the other.
     
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    The proposed map is carefully crafted to result in 3 liberal states. For example, "North California" would be dominated by San Francisco. I see no upside for gun ownership.

    Don't worry, though, it's not going to happen.
     
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    The downside would be 4 more electoral votes as each new state would get two senators.
     
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    Obviously, they would only agree to a plan that gives them power. (At least on paper.)

    However comma,

    IF....the other two states (with L.A. and S.F. respectively,) succeed in separating, how can they do anything but fail? With failure comes conversion, either by desperation or revolt.
     
  6. WestKentucky

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    San Diego, LA, and San Francisco... I forgot about San Diego... I thought that it was going to bring hope to at least one group. Still, my understanding of the demographics and social climate seem to say that NorCal would likely be much more pro-gun than the current situation. The LA chunk would probably go ahead and ban sticks shaped like guns though. I’m glad I only know a little from a distance.
     
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    A logical division of California into 3 or more states could be a good thing, breaking the one-party stranglehold in at least some of the new states. However, this current proposal isn't logical. It's a classic gerrymander.You can see that, by its inclusion of San Francisco in the otherwise fairly conservative northern California. Even San Diego, which could be expected to skew conservative, is watered down by including some of the Los Angeles suburbs and extending it well into central California. This is a naked power play to give the Democrats 4 more Senators and electoral votes. Needless to say, gun rights would suffer nationally.
     
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