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If Full-Auto Were Legal..Would You?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by amprecon, Dec 23, 2005.

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  1. amprecon

    amprecon Member

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    If Full-Auto weapons were not illegal, would you have one or more? I have never fired a fully-automatic weapon, it does look cool, but how effective is it? I can see at close range it would be useful, but even semi-auto can be fired pretty fast. I'm not so sure that I'd even want one, say they were the same price as the semi-auto versions, just the cost of the ammunition would be astronomical. When I take my Garand, or AK to range, I'm completely satisfied to crank off rounds in quick succession and hit the gongs. I just wonder how many of those rounds would hit the gongs if fired at the same range in full-auto. It's so hypocritical of the government to ban them being that 00 buck-shot is essentially the same thing out of a shotgun aside from maybe the effective range. A full-auto MP5 sends 9mm rounds out one after the other, a 12-gauge shotgun with 00 buck sends about 10 .32 caliber sized lead balls all at once in one shot, isn't that considered full-auto too? Same amount of fire-power only the 12-gauge sends them out all at once rather than in succession. 10-round burst from MP5, 10 9mm projectiles downrange, 1 burst from 12-gauge shotgun loaded with 00 buck, 10 .32 caliber projectiles downrange, where's the logic?
     
  2. Third_Rail

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    Yes; area denial weaponry; reasoning - you never know.
     
  3. Zedicus

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    Dude, look around this site, do you realy need to ask?:D :p

    In short, YES!:D
     
  4. MatthewVanitas

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    Not to nitpick, but FA is legal, just heavily regulated.

    Despite the ardent wishes of many members of the board, I don't think FA would be that popular after the "forbidden fruit" aspect wore off. Older FA would be collected like other milsurps, some toy "buzz guns" would be popular, and not a whole ton would change in firearms overall.

    If the NFA disappeared tomorrow, I just about bet the the primary post-NFA products would involve barrel length: short-barreled shotguns would take up a lot of the home defense market, and M4-geries would be relplaced by the 14.5" barrel versions.

    Probably the main change in terms of FA would be that we'd be able to buy genuine military weapons rather than the neutered versions. Many ranges still wouldn't allow FA fire anyway, and most folks would kepe their ARs, etc. on single for 95% of the time, probably just using burst/full as an occasional lark, or to finish off a farewell mag at the end of the range session. If it only cost $20 to add the additional sears during production, I figure some manufacturers would.

    Anybody else agree? I still think it would be fitting and proper to allow FA, but after reflection, I don't think it would change any of my buying habits, except getting an un-neutered (virile?) AR lower.

    -MV
     
  5. MTMilitiaman

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    Yes, if full auto were cheaper and easier to get, such as if the NFA was repealed, I would own automatic weapons. I think a Glock 18, Mini Uzi 45, MP5 10mm Auto, PKM, and a couple others would be nifty. How practical it is really isn't a concern for me. It is better to have full auto and not need it than to need it and not have it. And it could be fun.
     
  6. chopinbloc

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    full auto can be pretty darn devastating at close range, especially the three round burst used on the m4 and m16a2. no, you're not likely to hit anything at range with any but the first round on full auto but it keeps their heads down and there are some very limited situations where a massive volume of fire is essential. they are legal, just expensive. i suppose you mean that if the '34 gca never happened, would i buy one? yes, absolutely. matter of fact most of the rifles i own would have been offered in select fire standard and probably wouldn't have semi only except as an option. so odds are that my three ars, my ak, my mini14 and my m1a would all have been the select fire versions. heck, i'd probably buy a tec9 or mac 10 if they were full auto, just for fun. an uzi would make a great car gun and cheaper than the mp5.

    i take it from your location and the fact that you've never fired a full auto weapon that you're a zoomie or a contractor. hmmm, i'll put five on kbr.:cool: am i close?
     
  7. bakert

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    Not my thing but I know a few people that have them (fully licensed) and love 'em.
     
  8. CannonFodder

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    Of course. Did you really have to ask? :cool:
     
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    If it wasn't as heavily regulated and expensive, sure. I can think of a few subguns that would be a hoot.

    jmm
     
  10. Majic

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    Not me because I don't want the job of feeding one.
     
  11. chickenfried

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    Only in .22 lr :)
     
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    I would, but it wouldn't fill the niche of hunting, home defense, or carry. Basically they'd be "fun guns" except for perhaps something like a SBR for HD. Probably wouldn't need the FA option on it though.
     
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    it would be fun, but i spending that much on ammo would not be worth it to do often.

    though, if i could get my hands on one of those .22LR smg's that dick casull invented, can't remember the name of them off the top of my head.

    on that thought, do you think legalizing class III firearms would create a market for full-auto .22 firearms?
     
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    They're not illegal unless your state bans them, and they're legal here. We have get togethers here where you can shoot all kinds of FA guns, plus the ranges rent them. We have weekly FA matches at the range! I have an Uzi. :)
     
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    If all regulations and taxes were lifted on the firearm and civilians could purchase them for the same price which law enforcement agencies purchase them for rather than paying $ 15,000.00 per gun, then heck ya
     
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    What would even be the point of owning one?

    I would have to have two!
     
  17. amprecon

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    Don't know what a zoomie is but not KBR, DynCorp Int'l C-12/UC-35A LCCS. I think the only full-auto I'd really be interested in would be making my 10/22 full auto and a M1A1 Thompson, now that'd be a hoot.
     
  18. Devonai

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    I still want an H&K 51 with the belt-feed conversion. Ever since I was standing right behind the guy firing one up in Dover-Foxcroft, Maine and it almost blew my freaking hat off my head, I was sold.
     
  19. Matthew748

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    I sure would. Savings and retirement planning would take the back seat for a year or so. I would get a full-auto FAL (I am sure DSA would be making them for the public if they could), something in .22lr, and a fully automatic BAR if someone came out with a reproduction. I am assuming that the prices on the original classic BARs would remain high due to collector value.

    Santa, are you listening?
     
  20. chopinbloc

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    amprecon,
    zoomie is a slightly derogatory nickname used for air force.

    oh, and i really, really want an american 180. heck, i'd use one for home defense if it ran reliably.
     
  21. S_O_Laban

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    That's a big plus one.... especially on owning a full auto BAR.

    I shot J. Ross's BAR in 8MM....awesome, I say..... awesome:D
     
  22. Working Man

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    If it was easer to get them and the cost was low, sure.

    I'd take a Tommy, 2 decked out Beretta 93R, an H&K MP7 A1, MP5 K, and
    a G36 K .

    Do to the cost of feeding them they would only see the light of
    day a few times a year. Not practical but fun. :D
     
  23. Feanaro

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    I have a single hyphenated name for you, my friend: MG-42. :evil:
     
  24. Wags

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    Of course I'd own a full auto if it was not restricted. Granted, I've fired so many full auto firearms over the years the want has worn off. Doesn't really interest me anymore.

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
     
  25. Kharn

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    Oh yeah, all my AR15s and AKs would be full-auto if I could pay the tax.

    Kharn
     
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