IF I were going to buy a 9mm Glock...which one and what to add/change?

[jmorris]

Gen 3 34 with Dawson sights.

 

[Rexster]

The Glocks that I did not shoot well were Gen3. Gen1 and Gen2 pointed so badly, I did not like either one. The Gen3 G22 pointed OK, and seemed to be the least-bad-fit, among four authorized duty pistol choices, when I reluctantly transitioned, in 2002. The subsequent Short Frame Gen3, and then the Gen4 and Gen5, fit better. So, I literally did “change” Glocks, voluntarily buying into Glocks again, starting eleven years later, with newer ones, that fit me better.

What to add/change? Nothing, except better sights. No apex triggers, no aftermarket springs. Just better sights.

Actually, to be exact, some 9mm Gen3 Glocks fit my left hand OK. My hands are not identical. When Gen4 came along, Glocks fit both of my hands nicely. This was important, because I carried right side primary, for almost 40 years. Though reasonably ambidextrous, when shooting, my right arm is my throwing arm, though I write lefty-handed. In my sixties, I am gradually becoming more “leftist,” for carry, due to my right hand and right shoulder going gimpy.

 

[md7]

I’d go with a Gen 5, personally. The 19 seems a good “all around” type, but strictly for range maybe look at the 34.

Given your past experience, I’d also recommend trying one before buying if possible. Wouldn’t want to recommend getting a pistol you won’t enjoy shooting, especially with so many good choices available.

 

[Atrox88]

Glock 17 G5 MOS. Leave it alone unless you want an optic.

 

[EMC45]

I’ve already opined that G48 is the right choice. I will say in addition I installed the Ameriglo “Agent” night sights on mine and the Shield Arms mag button and use the 15rd mags with it. Good set up all around.

 

[small town life]

Other that a gen4 i couldn't say as it's the only glock generation I've owned and shot. Supposedly their upgrade trigger is gtg.

 

[LiveLife]

... strictly for range use.

I'm wondering which one to buy: 17? 19? ... which Generation: 1, 2, 3, what's to choose from and why?

I suggest Gen3 Glock 22, like Navy SEALS due to proven reliability and availability of parts.

• Use 40-9mm conversion barrel to shoot 9mm
• Use Advantage Arms 22LR slide kit to shoot 22LR
• Gen3 provides wider availability of aftermarket support
• Can get LE trade-in Glock 22 for good price around $350-$400+ range

And to those posting Glocks shoot "meh" or not accurate compared to other pistols, dry fire while watching the front sight. If the front sight jumps/moves when the striker is released, muzzle movement could be the reason why group size is enlarged with "flyers". Mass produced polymer pistols assembled with modular parts can suffer from trigger that jerks/moves front sight when the striker is released, affecting accuracy.

For this reason, when buying I keep dry firing samples of Glocks until I find one that doesn't move the front sight (Or move the front sight minimally) to produce even smaller groups after trigger parts break-in and they produce around or sub 2" groups at 25 yards (BTW, I also produced 2" groups with various 1911s SA/Kimber/Sig/RIA and comparison of various factory pistol accuracy at 25 yards). Or you could dry fire 1000+ times to smooth out the trigger to reduce/minimize front sight jump/movement. I have seen well broken-in Glock that still jerked/moved the front sight and resolution is trigger job or trigger replacement with factory or aftermarket trigger.

Benefit of buying LE trade-in Glocks is often trigger parts have been broken-in/smoothed out to produce smaller groups with less "flyers".

BTW, 25 yard groups with Gen3 Glock 22 and 40-9mm conversion barrel - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lopment-and-observations.899455/post-12157707

And 25 yard groups with Gen3 Glock 22 and AA slide kit - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...rds-glock-22-advantage-arms-slide-kit.932458/

 

[Riomouse911]

So I've owned two Glocks since I started shooting sometime in the very early 1960's. I couldn't shoot them worth a damn (when I was shooting everything else just fine) and sold them almost immediately (Glock 19 and 17).

I'm tempted to try one last time, strictly for range use.

I figure on fitting it out with a bunch of Apex stuff, new sights, and whatever else will improve it.

And I'm wondering which one to buy: 17? 19? Another number. And which Generation: 1, 2, 3, what's to choose from and why?

There's plenty to read about how to upgrade, so I won't be asking that here...just what one I can get for the least price (I know, condition, condition, condition), invest a couple of bucks making it better, and be able to say I got one (as I have 'bout everything else I need or want, except a Walther P88 which I can't afford, a S&W 1911 which is also out of my current price range & I have a decent 1911 anyway, and a Smith 4053 or 43 which I'm sure I'll find soon.)

I'm thinking of a gen 1 19 or 17, as they are probably not-so-rare and cheaper than anything later..but any and all advice is appreciated.

I’ll be honest, if you didn’t like the feel of the Glocks you shot years ago I sorta doubt you will have changed your opinion much over time.

The generationy changes are pretty subtle, trigger shape here, fingergrooves there, etc. So the new Gen 5 Glock 45 still feels and shoots an awful lot like the Gen 3 Glock 17 when in hand. (Same Glock 17 size frame, the 45 has a Glock 19 sized slide.)

Unless you go for a completely different grip feel, like the above mentioned Glock 48 or 43X with their slim 10-round grip frames, with a double stack Glock you are pretty much just going back to where you were years ago. (The 48 is my favorite Glock now for fun and play, the 43X MOS for ccw.) If you want to try one of those, you may like the feel. But if the Glock trigger didn’t do it for you before, the Glock trigger system then is still the Glock trigger system today.

Personally, even though I have and shoot several 9mm Glock models, I would keep saving up for the chance to buy one of the ones you listed. I get more satisfaction from finally finding and filling that long-held desire rather than spending money on a gun make-model-caliber that was tried (and disliked) in the past.

Just an opinion, worth no more or less than the others.
Good luck with your search.

Stay safe.

 

[EMC45]

“Unless you go for a completely different grip feel, like the above mentioned Glock 48 or 43X with their slim 10-round grip frames, with a double stack Glock you are pretty much just going back to where you were years ago. (The 48 is my favorite Glock now for fun and play, the 43X MOS for ccw.) If you want to try one of those, you may like the feel. But if the Glock trigger didn’t do it for you before, the Glock trigger system then is still the Glock trigger system today.”


Perfectly put!

 

[Mike J]

I am another that thinks a gen 3 Glock 19 clone that allows you to mount an optic might be a better way to go. I have a Dagger & the ergonomics of it are really nice. They are actually somewhat similar to the grip on my M&P. Most parts can interchange with Glock parts & magazines. So parts & magazines are readily available. I haven't shot a RXM but it does look interesting. Also some of these pistols (the Daggers & RXM} allow you to get a new pistol with an optic cut slide for a very reasonable price.

 

[freedom 1776]

17 gen 4/5, change site

 

[halfmoonclip]

My introduction to shooting Glocks was a G26, since it was unaffected by the Clinton Ban. I took it straight to an Ayoob course, after a quick clean and lube.
Quickly made a discovery that pressing with the pad didn't work, and that distal joint was the deal. Mas had to sign a dollar for me, among others.
The traditional 'press 'till it breaks' thing simply doesn't work with Glocks; the trick is to force a break, without disturbing the sights.
It' still challenging to shoot a Glock, and then something else (or vise-versa).
A 19.5 is the way to go. There's one living, loaded, in a lock box above the computer, as I type.
BTW, it's my understanding that G1s are hens teeth. I had a Gen 2 for awhile, but a buddy wanted it back.
Moon

 

[Rockrivr1]

I have a few Glocks, but I shoot the G45 MOS. The best. They tweaked this model a little and it just fits me better.

 

[LiveLife]

Personally, even though I have and shoot several 9mm Glock models, I would keep saving up for the chance to buy one of the ones you listed. I get more satisfaction from finally finding and filling that long-held desire rather than spending money on a gun make-model-caliber that was tried (and disliked) in the past.

Have you considered the Staccato?

Staccato 2011 P4 was just added to the roster and takes Glock magazines - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1474715#msg1474715

 

[Riomouse911]

Have you considered the Staccato?

Staccato 2011 P4 was just added to the roster and takes Glock magazines - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1474715#msg1474715

Myself? I went to 1911/2011 armorer school and was sort of intrigued. Then, my experience with a Staccato on the range was not a very good one. Some guys love them, and that’s great. I’m a bit more “meh”.

I don’t want to feel ho hum about a gun when it’s 3k+ to buy one.

YMMV of course.

Stay safe.

 

[WisBorn]

I too wanted to give Glock another try after 2 decades. My first Glock was a G22C and I hated it. Wanting to give Glock another chance, and yearning for a 10mm, I bought a G20 gen5. Shortly after buying the 20, I added a G19 gen5, G26 gen5, G42, G29 gen5, and last week a G48 & G43 (I traded off different firearms for them).

With the OP mentioning a G19 or G17. I would have to recommend the Glock 45 or 47. With each generation Glock has made improvements. The 45 and 47 are the most improved versions in the 9mm compact and full size guns.
If the OP wants a carry pistol then I would say G43 or G48.

 

[irishlad]

These are expensive, but receive very good reviews:

Rapid Engineering - Glock Adaptors

I would also agree with @Pat Riot that the Ruger RMX is worth a strong look.

I put their adapters on my G43 and G48. They made a nice difference. I recommend them.

They work well!!

 

[actionexpress]

I have a few Glocks, but I shoot the G45 MOS. The best. They tweaked this model a little and it just fits me better.

Same here, it just balances right. An optic takes the weirdness out of the grip angle for me, forces me to point it correctly, and thus shoots better. For fun, a Ramjet/Afterburner makes it a different animal altogether.

 

[actionexpress]

Glock 17 G5 MOS. Leave it alone unless you want an optic.

They don’t offer the 17 MOS anymore to civilians, it's Blue Label program only now. Have to get a 47.

 

[PavelSJ]

The Glocks that I did not shoot well were Gen3. Gen1 and Gen2 pointed so badly, I did not like either one. The Gen3 G22 pointed OK, and seemed to be the least-bad-fit, among four authorized duty pistol choices, when I reluctantly transitioned, in 2002. The subsequent Short Frame Gen3, and then the Gen4 and Gen5, fit better. So, I literally did “change” Glocks, voluntarily buying into Glocks again, starting eleven years later, with newer ones, that fit me better.

What to add/change? Nothing, except better sights. No apex triggers, no aftermarket springs. Just better sights.

Actually, to be exact, some 9mm Gen3 Glocks fit my left hand OK. My hands are not identical. When Gen4 came along, Glocks fit both of my hands nicely. This was important, because I carried right side primary, for almost 40 years. Though reasonably ambidextrous, when shooting, my right arm is my throwing arm, though I write lefty-handed. In my sixties, I am gradually becoming more “leftist,” for carry, due to my right hand and right shoulder going gimpy.

This would be fair deal ($400) if it came with 3 magazines:


It appears to be early Gen 4 with shiny finish of superior durability. Glock fan boys call it "frying pan finish".

 

[Skinny Pete]

Nothing to "upgrade" and all around better pistol IMO...

 

[MikeInOr]

So I've owned two Glocks since I started shooting sometime in the very early 1960's. I couldn't shoot them worth a damn (when I was shooting everything else just fine) and sold them almost immediately (Glock 19 and 17).

I'm tempted to try one last time, strictly for range use.

I figure on fitting it out with a bunch of Apex stuff, new sights, and whatever else will improve it.

And I'm wondering which one to buy: 17? 19? Another number. And which Generation: 1, 2, 3, what's to choose from and why?

There's plenty to read about how to upgrade, so I won't be asking that here...just what one I can get for the least price (I know, condition, condition, condition), invest a couple of bucks making it better, and be able to say I got one (as I have 'bout everything else I need or want, except a Walther P88 which I can't afford, a S&W 1911 which is also out of my current price range & I have a decent 1911 anyway, and a Smith 4053 or 43 which I'm sure I'll find soon.)

I'm thinking of a gen 1 19 or 17, as they are probably not-so-rare and cheaper than anything later..but any and all advice is appreciated.

I don't understand why people who don't shoot Glocks well or just don't like Glocks would buy a Glock?

There are so many great striker fired plastic pistols available these days why not just find one that works well for you?

 

[actionexpress]

Nothing to "upgrade" and all around better pistol IMO...

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Lack of an optic cut is probably a significant reason people aren't interested.

 

[PavelSJ]

Typical cost of magazine for that pistol is about $40 while right now Gen 5 G17 mag at Midway is $16.50.

 

[Buckeye63]

Glock / upgrade goes together like peanut butter & jelly …
I own a few Glocks 30S , Gen 2 19 , 27 & 23
All are great pistols.. other than sights .. they are stock
But .. honestly I wouldn’t buy a new 19 .. period
The CZ P10C is what a 19 is if you spend $500 on a $500 19
Or find a used PPQ or PPD



Best upgrade on a Glock is another pistol