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If it ever comes to confiscation...

Discussion in 'Legal' started by sweatingbanshee, May 1, 2008.

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  1. sweatingbanshee

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    For example, if the government signs onto IANSA, or if Congress simply passes a ban that would necessitate confiscation, will the government shut down pro-gun internet forums? Will NRA mailings be held at the post office? Will they shut down the phone lines of the known most vocal gun rights supporters?

    Just how far will the government go to keep gun rights activists from banding together for a unified resistance? And how much will the press comply? What do gun owners need to do to prepare for these efforts?
     
  2. John828

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    Keep a level head. Write your congressman a letter informing him how important the RKMB is to you. Act normal. Take off the tinfoil hat. Write a sane letter to the editor of the newspaper in your area. Go to work and mow your grass. Join a shooting club and network with other likeminded shooters.
     
  3. mio

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    the better question might be could they shut down communication fast enough to prevent widespread organized resistance.
    i believe the anwser is no. they would have to completly shut down the internet, cell signals (all digital signals really) and land phone lines, plus enough roads to keep people from quickly driving to the next town. and at the same time hit all at once the houses of either the majarity of gun owners or enough of the multi (say 10+) gun owners fast enough to limit resistance.
    its not possible the only option they have is to pass 1 "reasonable gun control law" after another untill its to much trouble for the average citizen to own a gun.
     
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    Not going to happen...not now, and not even if an anti made it into office in the next round. Relax, enjoy life and communicate your expectations to your congress-critters.
     
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  5. Hoppy590

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    if it ever comes to confiscation i will sit quietly and comply...

    thats as what the internet needs to know. :cool:
     
  6. Picard

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    Yes, we will all comply...Not going to openly say otherwise.

    If it ever came to that, a civilian army of 10 million would make them think otherwise.
     
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    Persian Commander: "Spartans! Lay down your weapons!"
    King Leonidas: "Persians! Come and get them!"
     
  8. Bobarino

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    guns? what guns? oh THOSE guns. nope, they were all lost in a tragic boating accident and that last one i sold to a friend of a friend of a friend. ;)

    Bobby
     
  9. geekWithA.45

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    Look, mass confiscation as a state or federal general policy is massively unlikely in our lifetimes, and there will be plenty of obvious warning before then.

    Should that happen, the authorities can expect nothing less than hot death in military calibers from me, I'm not even going to try to pretend otherwise. The sticker price for ending the American experiment of self determined liberty, of taking my life or my guns will be as high as I can make it.


    So, that being said, we are a very long way from there, and it's best to stop with the red dawn chairbourne commando fantasies, and start with the political awareness and activism to prevent that all from ever happening.

    The further we keep it from the brink, the better the odds of all of us dying happily of extreme old age are.

    Our opponents would increment us towards that brink, we must be vigilant, resist every step, and increment away from the brink at every opportunity.
     
  10. REOIV

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    Confiscation won't happen anytime soon I could see it happening in 100 years or so though as more and more people grow up not understanding fire arms and just believing what sensationalist media tells them.

    What with all the bad press bayonet lugs, flash hiders and barrel shrouds get.
     
  11. The Tourist

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    If that time ever comes, my heart will be concerned about other things.

    As you know, I have never been a soldier, but I have lived my entire life in a warm house, free to speak (and even tick you guys off--repeatedly), free to write, free to vote, and free to resist. I do things by the sacrifices people have made, in the extreme, to ensure I can live in this fashion.

    If confiscation truly occurs, then this will not be my country. Where will I go, when no place on the entire planet is free?
     
  12. Mr White

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    Don't listen to these clowns. Door to door confiscations are a LOT closer than you think. There is a secret memo floatnig around DC that if Hillary is elected, ALL US troops will be pulled from Iraq immediately and brought back here under UN command for the express purpose of confiscating ALL civillian-owned firearms. They are looking to start this in early April of '09.

    The mainstream media is part of the plan and will not disclose any knowledge or report on the existence of this memo. A guy at the gun range where I shoot has a cousin in the CIA in DC who told him about this. He has always been a straight-up guy and has no reason to lie about this, so I believe him.

    I'm in the process of building a bunker in the woods behind my house and am stockpiling food, water and ammunition for the planned battle. This is gonna be the big one for sure. If you want to come to PA and take a stand with me, let me know. The bunker should be plenty big enough for another 3 or 4 people.

    WOLVERINES!!!!
     
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    Tourist, right now, this is your country and your obligation is to fight (with words) to keep it as it is. Running away is not an option. I cannot think of a country more free than the U.S. and if there is one, it will eventually fall if the world's superpower ends up falling.

    White, there will not be door to door confiscations. If there are, the government can expect nothing short of a revolution, in which the civilians will undoubtedly win due to their sheer number. Is Hillary making plans with the CIA, before entering office? What you say is just conspiracy theory.

    I hope that you were joking and that I just didn't catch onto the sarcasm.
     
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    @Mr. White:

    Do I detect sarcasm?
     
  15. Eightball

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    I hope you aren't the least bit serious. You're suggesting that I go to Pennsylvania to make my stand? :p
     
  16. Colt46

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    As long as there is trial by jury of my peers....

    I say let them arrest me and try me for not turning in my firearms.
     
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    I'm not implying it is, I'm just playing out the eventual outcome in my mind.

    My house on fire. My wife frightened to death. My dogs dead.

    And taking a center-mass firing position on a soldier or police officer that used to be my neighbor.

    If that doesn't break your heart, I mean to the point of tears, I don't know any scenario that will. Everything you know and love will be gone into the cinder floating to the ground.
     
  18. bigdaddydan

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    no way ! :fire::fire::fire:
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    GOD BLESS THE NRA
    IF YOUR NOT A MEMBER OF ANY PRO GUN ORGANIZATION YOU NEED TO JOIN EVERYONE YOU CAN AFFORD TO JOIN AND GIVE AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU CAN :evil::evil::evil::evil:

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  19. Picard

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    Tourist, if America falls, you will have nowhere else to go. It sounds like the only option would be to surrender or die fighting. It is a sad scene but what else could you do?
     
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    Oh, I agree. I just don't think we have played out the idea to its full magnitude.

    I have heard the figure that in the event of confiscation, out 10% of the gun owners will fight back. I believe that, most of us are not trained soldiers, cops or mercenaries. We have wives and children. The 'boomers are of retirement age. Not much of a "Red Dawn" style army.

    But let's figure low. Suppose only half of those people resisted.

    They claim that there are 70 million firearms in America. Let's suppose that's one per each, which it is not.

    By that math, we will be experiencing 3.5 million running gun battles on our streets. Americans killing Americans.

    That's a palatable option?
     
  21. IllHunter

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    Tourist...

    I read where you wrote that you had never served but acknowledge that you enjoy your freedom as a grace from the actions of those who serve or served. Can you try and put your self in the place of those who stand and serve. How many will refuse to comply with orders directly against the Constitution. Surely not all, just as surely some. The military would be reticent to fire on Americans. Although NOPD and others moved to take guns in N.O. if it happened on a larger scale (and it must) it would be defeated by those who are paying attention. If you don't know many gun owners, shooters, veterans and solid citizens, try and meet some ftf. Establish trust and respect and you may be bouyed and sustained by the power that comes from being part of the "Brotherhood of Arms". I might also suggest "salting away" as they might take some but they will never get all.
     
  22. Picard

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    No, that's terrible, but it wouldn't be Americans shooting just anyone. It would be Americans fightings the soldiers that would try and take them out. I'm sure that many of the soldiers would also join "our" side.

    Hunter summed it up nicely.
     
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    It's not a secret anymore though... :D
     
  25. ZeSpectre

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    I wouldn't be so confident of that.
     
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