If it ever comes to confiscation...

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Observation on Waco & Ruby Ridge:
Heavily armed & trained teams of government agents violently assaulted a few citizens who, to their surprise, shot back.
The gov't didn't try that again for 15 years.
Think about it.
 
In fact, when I want a new rifle, I tell my wife to hold dinner for twenty minutes, I run down to The Ammo Box and buy what I want.
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Go buy an M4.
A new one.
With the third selector position.

It's just the standard-issue rifle for our military, exactly what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote the 2nd Amendment, so you shouldn't have any problems getting and owning one - right?
 
The only real challenge to this is sending the Army. American against American. Frankly, I'm getting tired of their meaningless ranting.
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When an American puts on steel toed jackboots and begins to stomp and tear apart our Constitution, he ceases to be an American, as quoted by Fletcher.

In fact, when I want a new rifle, I tell my wife to hold dinner for twenty minutes, I run down to The Ammo Box and buy what I want. I never think of Hillbama, or Chuckie Schumer, or Diane Feinstein...
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Thats why activism on our side is so important. If we slip, like we did back in 1964, and have our enemies stick a knife into our side when we are caught sleeping again, our nation and people will be facing some serious turmoil down the road.
Of course, we are talking about resistance and preserving the Constitution, of course we must talk about such issues even though it is very complicated, who wants war? Nobody in their right mind wants war, and therefore, the more we participate in activism and grassroots activities, the more we can influence our politicians to uphold the United States Constitution and therefore, in the future, we wouldn't find ourselves stuck in the middle of a steel jawed predatory mouth, ready to crush us.

As for being hampered by liberal legislation, of course I have been hampered by them. I live in NYC, and here, your right to self defense has literally been stripped and humiliated, however, the crime rate in NYC is soaring just like usual, with more and more violence happening daily. Just look at our local newspapers a month ago. A Chinese graduate student from Columbia University was killed by a car as he ran across the street fleeing from two assailants. Charlton Heston, our great hero and father figure, also passed away on the same day. HOWEVER, all of the city's newspapers rather post an article about a pregnant transvestite on their frontpage! This is the UTTER DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE EXHIBITED BY THOSE WHO RUN THE CITY.
I am glad that I have property on Long Island too, and I can keep my firearms there. I only live in NYC for easy commuting to and from school. Hopefully I will be back on the railroad job, and I can spend more time living somewhere I am satisfied with.

What the liberals are doing is not "crime control". it is "gun control", pure and undiluted.
When gun control is implemented as an attempt to cut down on violent crime, it would have been realized, from the onset, that it does not work. And immediately, the legislators will repeal the gun control laws, and implement strategies THAT WORK, such as Right To Carry programs.
HOWEVER, when gun control policies are implemented, and instead of being repealed when it is found that they do not work at cutting down crime at all, instead the legislator passes MORE gun restrictions, it is a sign of repression. Evidently the legislator is basically using each violent crime as a chance to implement more gun control laws. Sometimes, it is not a direct example of fascism, but more of money. Being a cop is a job too, and when crime rates have dropped so low that fewer police officers are necessary, police jobs will dwindle, and people will lose jobs. HOWEVER, more gun control means citizens not able to defend themselves, thus will lead to MORE crime, and MORE need for police officers. Therefore, gun control is implemented so it will keep police employed. See the logic here? It may sound sick and disturbed, but THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THE TREND IN LARGE CITIES HAVE BEEN over the past few decades.
Evidenty, the liberals are discarding their regard for human life in favor of keeping more police jobs available. This is another example of how liberals are extremely selfish and have utter disregard for human life.
 
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ctdonath said:
Go buy an M4. A new one. With the third selector position.

It's just the standard-issue rifle for our military, exactly what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote the 2nd Amendment, so you shouldn't have any problems getting and owning one - right?
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Ya' know, you're absolutely right.

In fact, the rhetoric has gotten so ridiculous during the past year that I would probably have more trouble buying one in anodized purple than in black.
 
I was confiscated really badly once.

Oh man, now that's painful!!

:what:

Fortunately it passed and I felt much better afterwards.

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::I just love this type of thread..::
 
Observation on Waco & Ruby Ridge:
Heavily armed & trained teams of government agents violently assaulted a few citizens who, to their surprise, shot back.
The gov't didn't try that again for 15 years.
Think about it.
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There was yet another unintended consequence as a result of the Clintonistas' violent suppression of human rights. During the Clintonista era, the militia movement reached it's peak. Although the militias were long denounced by the liberal media as "right wing nuts and extremists in the name of the Constitution", between the years of 1992 and 2000, they reached to a point of several million participants. Also, running right parallel to this, the NRA reached it's peak levels of membership during these years. Right after the election of President Bush, the numbers of NRA participation dropped...again, to it's former number before the Clintonistas, about 4 million members, the same number as we have today.
 
If you like conspiracy theories, Mr. White sound like an undercover fed fishing for extremists.

I believe the way to do away with guns is like the old adage, "How do you cook a live frog. Put in a pot of cold water, then turn the temp slowly until boiling." The frog won't fight to get out. This may be a conspiracy theory, but I think this is in effect on guns.

First California laws will continue to spread throughout the U.S., because Californians are to afraid to fight for their rights. Why is it that they leave California for some where with less crime, lower taxes, better schools and better over all life style; and then they become a part of the local politics to make where they now live like California. Sorry for the rant, anyway then California will ban private ownership and the rest of the country will follow. Somewhere in all of this, the White House will be move to California as well.

After all of this, a war will begin using an poorly arm militia with rusty turkey muskets... Sorry, sounds like a war for independence. That one took about a century as well to finally start.
 
Mr.White, I mean Rusty Shackelford, I mean Dale Gribble. HAHA.

The military are obligated to follow "all lawful orders" and "to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America".

To tell me to go out and Confiscate firearms doesn't sound to me like a lawful order or upholding the Constitution of the United States. I would expect that much of the military would feel the same way. I wouldn't worry about the military just following any and every order like robots. We can and must think for ourselves too. Just like everyone else we are responsible for our actions as individuals. The military is not just one GIANT tool of the government.
 
Waco, Ruby Ridge, Etc.

Hey There;
These things that happened in our past should not have. They should never happen again. We are to blame for allowing these things to happen.
Had an army of armed citizens showed up from behind the Waco killers things may have been much different.
has nothing to do with what they may or may not have been guilty of. We will never know that now. There was no Trial. The media judged them and we all fell for it. The media can and will demonize any one they want to. This will include you and me if guns were to be out lawed. They know how has them by registration , another trap we fell into. The list would come out of the closet so fast .... More then likely little blue uniforms would be involved.
But then again, as I said we would by then have been so demonized our own troops may have some part in this also. We know our police forces would. Hope like crazy your neighbor is not a cop. The good ones would quite their jobs fast. The others would go for it. I am very sure my gun owners would drop out. History always repeats it self. I won't mention any names so we don't get locked down . But if our powers to be are looking for a fight they just may get one. The fact is the 2A is not the only right they are after.
Your 1st, 2nd, 5th and so on. Will all come under fire and would be elliminated very fast as you would have no recourse. That is what they are after.
And that is why we have a 2A.
 
When you no longer have the 2A, The others are just on loan.

I like the line previously stated.

"Spartans, lay down your weapons."

"Persians, come and get them."

I would likely end up dead in this situation sometime down the road but my ancestors would be better for it. The problem with society as a whole today is too few are willing to die for their rights and beliefs. I am not referring to anyone in here but it is truth and the fact that fully automatic guns are banned now is proof of that.
 
I wouldn't give up my life because some mayor and his over zealous police force started confiscations for which they were subsequently reprimanded and sued out of existence.
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It’s best to operate based on the assumption that when one forfeits their guns, they also forfeit their ability to ever regain freedom.
 
Well said. Like has been said millions of times before. You can have it when you pry it from my cold dead hands. I will likely end up dead but so will many of others who come after me. Is that a risk your willing to take?
 
Confiscation sooner than people think

There are those who are basically oblivious to the changing demographics happening nationwide. The Conservative Pro-Gun South where Pro-Gun White Southerners reside, is being transformed rapidly. With the minority populations booming in the South, the Southern states are in danger of quickly losing their 2nd Amendment rights. These minority groups are leaning heavily Democratic, and are staunchly Anti-Gun. With immigration both legal, and illegal, once these people gain citizenship, they'll heavily vote Democratic. Every Pro-Gun state at the present, will fall into the Anti-Gun territory, like a domino effect. The White population is slowing down, aging very quickly. Especially, that of Conservative Pro-Gun Whites. People can ignore what's happening all they want, reality will slap them in the face. People need to read Pat Buchanan's books. He's right on.

Texas.. already a minority majority state like California, just wait until the younger minority population becomes eligible to vote.. you'll see your rights go down the tube..
Georgia.. Whites there are projected to become a minority by 2010.
Tennessee, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virgina, Nevada, Arizona, Colorada, Louisianna, and Florida, are all headed in the same direction. The Hispanic, Black, and Asian population is exploding all over the South. And even in the State of Vermont, and New Hampshire, Anti-gun Liberals and Anti-gun minorities are flooding the area.

When all of these Pro-Gun states flip, to Anti-Gun, believe me, when there are enough of there representation in Congress, they'll repeal the 2nd Amendment. Taken completely off of the Bill of Rights.

A complete confiscation of firearms will happen in my lifetime, and I'm afraid that a majority of gun owners will not even put up a fight.
 
Sharpshooter

Hey there:
We all know what you say is like true. So when it comes to that just move up here and join us. We may make you live up to your handle though.
Just need a little humor in here some where.
 
Sharpshooter,
While there may be more minorities in the South, the law makers (state representatives and senators) are still largely Republican and white. When I worked at the South Carolina House of Representatives (1995) it was that way and it is still that way.

On the topic of Georgia and black/white I believe that the Blacks surpassed whites long before 2010. If you had ever spent time in Atlanta, Augusta or Savannah you would think so also.
You sound like you have facts to back up your statements, but I would be surprised if you have done little more than pass through the South. I'm not saying that the South is not in danger of becoming anti-gun, everywhere is. But most of the minorities there don't vote, therefore the Democrats are still sorely outnumbered in Government when it comes to making laws. Besides, you would be surprised how many of the minorities have taken up hunting. It sounds like you think the South will be next place to become anti-gun. I firmly disagree and think that if it comes to it the Southern States will be the last to hold out as pro-gun. I don't think in my lifetime or my children.

BTW I was born and raised in South Carolina. My family on my fathers side comes from Georgia.
 
To the OP. Relax. None of the things you mentioned is going to happen. You've been listening to too many right-wing/conspiracy/milita type kooks.

K
 
People are collectively, very, very dumb. American politics and the public reaction are proof aplenty on both sides.
 
sharpshooter74, You've just made a post blaming the supposed up-and-coming gun confiscation on minorities. You blame Hispanics, blacks, and Asians specifically, and anyone who is not white in general. Where have I heard talk like that before?

These statements are not supportable by facts.

Are you on a different site than you thought you were on? This ain't the Aryan brotherhood.
 
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