If someone killed your dog...?

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I don't normally respond to threads, just read and read. For some reason I thought I would add a little.
I have 3 little dogs, the heaviest weighs 15 pound, the other two are under 8 pounds each. The smallest one is my service animal.
I can absolutely say that without a doubt, if someone shot my little one while I was near it, I would shoot to kill that person. (she only leaves my side to go into the securely fenced back yard to go potty).
She would either be on a 6 foot leash or in the carrier I wear on my chest. Someone shoots that close to me I can only assume they missed me.
Also a dog/animal can sometimes be more than just a pet. It can actually be a lifesaver/helpmate.
Ok, there are my thoughts. I hope I put them so they can be easily understood. :)

Pindem
 
if someone shot one of mine in my yard and it was someone that knew me they would definitly shoot me first and i include my family and friends. had a drunk friend shoot one of mine once stupid gun play i came very near killing him but didn't and today am glad i didn't
 
I originally meant if you saw someone shoot your dog right there in front of you, on your land

That's a no brainier.

Trespasser with a gun and shoots my dog.
I would shoot them.............several times.
 
My reaction would depend on which dog was killed and the circumstances. If the 'outdoor' animal was 'running at large' as defined by the statute there wouldn't be much I could do save admit responsibility and pay the fine.

However, if it were the 'indoor' dog... Since Moody (the dog) is usually within five feet of my two year old at any one time I could only pray the killer had given his soul to Jesus because his body would be threatening my kid. Not a situation I answer with calm reflection.

Selena
 
Hi Drop out,

How about turning the other cheek?

One of the few times my priest talked to my Uncle Lee he mentioned that Jesus said we should turn the other cheek. He had no answer when my uncle asked if Jesus ever said we had to be a fool about it. My Uncle then went on to point out the killings that King David committed, and God Himself said David was a man after His own heart.

Selena
 
Now I know that you all loved Ol' Yeller and all, but we have to remember it's society's warp-minded who would judge us. Allow me to share a real-life example.

Years back I was a high school principal in a small town here in Michigan. There was an ex-con who called himself "Doc Blue". He supposedly earned a law degree while in prison. :scrutiny: Well, ol' Doc Blue had been recently released from Jackson Prison. His crime, you all ask? Glad to share.

Ol' Doc Blue went to prison for shooting and killing the man who shot his dog.

Doc2005 (No relation to Doc blue...besides, he's since passed on to a hopefully better place).
 
This whole thread is an emotional trap and too vague to actually be worth offering comment.

Uuuuh...:confused:...but you DID offer a comment.:neener:


My dog is just my hairiest kid and I would protect him the same as one of my not so hairy kids.

RH
 
Chest-beaters make my backside sore...
...it runs at me in anything I consider a threatening manner (and yes, I know the difference), and it comes within 10 feet of me, it's gone, and believe me, I'm gonna be PO'd enough to be ready and waiting for anything the owner tries to run on me...

Edited to take the High Road, and let the above quotes from the same post speak for themselves.
 
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Let the law deal with the situation.

Its illegal to protect an animal from a human attack, since an animal is just soul-less property according to the law.

I don't agree with this, but its the law. You don't want a felony on your record.
 
My ankle biters are no danger to anyone and they are like my children to me. I also am the most vindictive person I know. While I'm not stupid enough to do it in front of witnesses if anyone did hurt them they would most definately suffer dire consequences.
 
Anyone who would kill a person over a dog deserves what he gets, which will likely be a long stretch in the graybar hotel.

Depends on where you live. In Alabama you are justified in using deadly force in protecting your property, and dogs are legally considered property. Although to me opinion they are family! Sorry you live in Michigan!!

The OP's clarification was that the dog was under your control on a leash or on your property and an individual came up and shot your dog.

I have three large dogs (75 -100 lbs.) and they stay inside a five foot chain link fence around my house, except when they are out with me on my farm. They do not leave my side, but if they were to leave my property and attacked someone I would shoot them myself. Or if they left the property and someone felt threaten and shot them them I would have to accept it.

On the other hand if someone came onto my property and they approached that individual and he/she pulled a gun then it would be a question as to who would shot who. And as I stated above not only is it justifiable in Alabama but its justifiable in my mind because those dogs are like children to me.

I don't care how harmless you think your mutt is, it runs at me in anything I consider a threatening manner (and yes, I know the difference), and it comes within 10 feet of me, it's gone, and believe me, I'm gonna be PO'd enough to be ready and waiting for anything the owner tries to run on me.

I hope you are referring to public property. If so, I totally agree with you! But like I said, if anyone comes on my property and pulls a gun......

Doc2005

Things have changed a lot since Ole Doc Blues' time. A lot of states now allow you to protect your property!
 
By Biker:

I agreed to abide by certain rules when I signed up to hang at the THR.
I keep my word to the best of my ability. If someone needlessly killed my dog, there would be consequences and repercussions. That's all I can say.

Biker

Well said & I fully agree. :fire:
 
franklin wva 1978 one guy shot his neighbors dog "outa meaness" dog was lose on owners property. next afternoon dog owner put 3 in the 10 ring in front of 20 people. jury refused to indict
 
If I remember right it was a dog shooting and a retaliatory return of fire that opened the ball at Ruby Ridge and got most of Randy Weaver's family murdered by federal "agents".

In Oklahoma you can kill a dog if it is in the ACT of killing or harassing livestock. Livestock has a pretty broad definition and for sure includes rabbits and chickens, ask me how I know that for certain:).
You can't up and kill strays for busting up your trash, digging up the petunias or taking a dump in your roses. That falls under cruelty to animals and can get you locked up for longer than killing people in some cases.

All that being said, if a person were to walk up and in my presence open fire on an animal on my property all hell is gonna break loose and right now.
 
Anyone who would shoot my dog without justification is presenting a viable threat to me and will be shot accordingly. And in Florida you are perfectly within your rights to use deadly force in such a situation. You won't be arrested or prosecuted.

Let's spin things out of control :evil: What if it's a cop? Enters your fenced yard without a warrant nor "probable cause", then shoots and kills your dog when the dog barks viciously at him?

There was a thread here a couple of weeks ago started with a news article where that's exactly what happened. The cop was cutting across the yard to get to a different house.
 
Would you construe that attack on your animal to mean that you might be the attacker's next victim?

Well, yeah. If someone came out of the blue, on my property with a gun and killed my dog in front of me and I was armed you sure as heck should bet I would shoot him.
 
I hope I would have the presence of mind not to return fire on a cop ( I might beat the cop but I wouldn't beat the rap. or the SWAT team ) However if you remember in our given situation the dog is under my immediate controll & not a threat, which indicates to me that the cop recklessly endangered my life ( especially given that my local cops miss 85% their shots ) I bet I ciould find one of those ambulance chaser lawyers that could get me a couple mil outta that P.S. No joke a year or so ago two buffalo escaped from a packing house here in Co Springs CSPD responded 2 of the city's funniest (sic) opened fire W/ AR -15s from something like 30 feet away and only hit the buffalo 15 times or so
I'm talking about a target the size of a VW bug & they couldn't hit it
 
Well, I reckon I know a little bit about this sort of thing. About a year and a half ago my I was walking my dog on my own block, on a leash. Had my glasses off because I wanted to get a bit of sun on my face. Didn't see the 1/2 Rott 1/2 Pit Mix laying on a neighbor's front lawn. Off leash, owner nowhere in sight. What happened? well, the dog jumped up without warning, bit my dog savagely down his spine, and ripped him out off my hands, giving me a rope burn that exposed my four left fingers down to the edge of connective tissue (a 3rd degree burn, left four holes in my hands where flesh used to be).

My dog tried to fight back but got tangled up in his leash. The owner came out and beat his dog off by kicking it. Old armenian guy. I paid $2000 in ER bills (insurance paid 1900$), 1300$ in vet bills. Thank god, I had bought pet insurance and so only paid $150 of that.

I posted the story up here then, and if I find the thread I'll post it here.

The guy absolutely refused to pay, claiming that my dog was responsible for provoking his dog (my dog is 60lbs; his is nearly 160). He said that he was too old and had no money anyway. Lives in an $800K house that belongs to his daughter.

I have a lawyer friend. Did a little checking up. Turns out I could sue him, and win for sure (I had 3 witnesses). But win what? the guy had no money that was under his name. And I couldn't name the daughter as a defendant. So 18 months later, still no money.

I wanted sooooo badly to go over there one night and shoot his dog. or, as one guy suggested, put cut up springs in ground beef and throw it over the fence. But the truth is, it wasn't the dog's fault. it was the owner's. The dog's nature was to fight, and my dog's too.

So, I let it go. But I learned two things:

1. always be alert, ESPECIALLY if you are walking your dog as he will find trouble if it is around.

2. buy pet insurance!! i cannot stress this enough. anyone with a dog needs to get this. it costs currently i think $11 a month and has paid for itself many times over. let me know if anyone wants information.

oh, and the story? well, as I speak I am working on a flyer that I will post all over the neighborhood. it will show his house, his name, his dog's name and description. and it will show pictures of how badly mauled my dog got, and tell everyone to avoid him because he lets his dog bite and refuses to pay for it.
 
Folks,

Threads about shooting dogs are off-topic. The fact that a gun may have been be used to shoot a dog does not make the topic gun related.

I'm sorry I let this one go on so long.

We just can't seem to discuss this matter civilly, so we just won't discuss it.

The next dog shooting thread gets deleted immediately.

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