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If the government shuts down, will NICS be down also?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Balrog, Feb 23, 2011.

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  1. Balrog

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    I have a question, and I do not intend for it to become a political discussion. It appears we may be only a few days away from the government shutting down over the budget. If that happens, will firearms sales be allowed to continue? Will NICS continue to function?
     
  2. X-Rap

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    I'd say if you need one buy one, that goes for the shutdown or not, I think we are in for some odd times and that is not a political statement.
     
  3. Balrog

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    I am good on guns, just asking what happens to NICS if they fail to come up with a budget agreement.
     
  4. X-Rap

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    I would say that the NICS could certainly fall under what they would consider non essential, especially with this admin. if it is their choice. (yes a little political):rolleyes::scrutiny:
     
  5. USAF_Vet

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    If the government shut down over budget, it most likely wouldn't effect us in our daily lives. It's not like an EMP goes off and everything comes to a screeching halt. For the most part, business will continue as usual, federal and otherwise.
     
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    I would like to see NICS shut down for budget reasons. Then I'd like to see the SAF file a lawsuit against our government. Lawyers on our side could have a lot of fun with that.

    Clutch
     
  8. macadore

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    So would this turn into a de facto ban on the sale of firearms?
     
  9. Balrog

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    No, only if a NICS check is required.

    Private sales would be OK still, since no NICs check is needed in most states. Also, many states CCW permits allow buyers to bypass the NICS check.
     
  10. bubba15301

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    in pa the state does the instant check
     
  11. Geno

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    If you have a concealed carry permit, you do not have to do the NICS.

    Geno
     
  12. X-Rap

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    Pretty general statement for the www:confused::scrutiny:it don't work that way in my world:(
     
  13. Birdmang

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    If the gov't "shuts down" (what does that even entail) I wont be shopping in my local gun store, Ill probably be either buying gas food and water, or having a party; depends on how good the "shut down" is.
     
  14. IncredibleGord

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    Birdmang,

    Open up your favorite web search engine, and look for news articles pertaining to: March 5 deadline, US gov shut down,

    Cnn has an interesting article outlining which services will be down. No new passports, or trips to nat'l parks. It seems like the gov will lose a lot of money if they procede as well.

    Back to the original topic.... NCIS probably would stay open, because how many FFLs in the US use it every day? That would be a lot of money lost for businesses, and the government off of the taxes on firearm sales.

    It is our duty to remain aware of what is happening, and to stand together during times of unrest. Fear and hype cause too many problems, including riots, and violence. The US government has seen much darker times, and always got through them. I feel for the Libyans unable to defend themselves on the streets right now, just proves how great it is to be an American.
     
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    It was my understanding LE agencies was not going to shut down. NICS is run b y the FBI. I'd ask an FFL for the info. They should have been informed if NICS closes.
     
  16. ultradoc

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    Good question. I doubt they would shut down the ncis though
     
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    No, NICS won't shut down.
     
  18. lizziedog1

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    Am I worried about a NICS shut down? Not really.:)

    Am I worried about $5.00 a gallon gas? You bet!:eek:
     
  19. USAF_Vet

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    Yeah no doubt. I have a 75 miles one way commute to work right now. $5.00 a gallon would be brutal.
     
  20. Balrog

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    you should live closer to your job!
     
  21. USAF_Vet

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    Balrog, I'm working on it, actually moving next month and cutting my commute in half. But when jobs are scarce you take what you can get and worry about the equally poor housing market later.
     
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    I paid $4.75 today, i nearly puked.
     
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    Wow! I thought it was bad here. Still hovering around the $3.25 mark in central Arkansas.
     
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    seems highly unlikely but remotely possible, here's a short breakdown from an article, some paperwork could stop, but probably wont-

    >>In fact, budget experts say it's unlikely that Social Security and veterans checks would stop coming, but federal budget expert Stan Collender says a government shutdown is still a very big deal.

    "Everybody may hate federal spending, but they like federal services," he says. "And that's what happened back in '95 and '96 when we had the last two shutdowns. Within minutes of the shutdown, after everyone got over the initial kind of amusement of the situation, they realized suddenly that they couldn't apply for a passport, couldn't apply for a visa and national parks were closed. Government contractors suddenly found out there was no one there to review their proposals or process their checks — and they were angry as hell about it."<<<<
     
  25. Dokkalfar

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    In the unlikely event NICS was to shut down, my guess is that dealers can still send in the information (fax), but then it falls under the 'no deny within 3 days' rule, so when the dealer doesn't get any 'deny' from them within 72 hours, you're free to pick up your new friend :)
     
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