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If you could only have one milsurp bolt action

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by andrewdl007, Oct 23, 2020.

  1. andrewdl007

    andrewdl007 Member

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    what would it be and why? (straight-pulls included)
     
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  2. JeeperCreeper

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    If I had the choice from a genie, a mint Springfield 1903. I had one, but it was one of those garbage receiver ones from the 50's... but it was a shooter. I didn't trust it so I traded for parts value.

    If I had to buy, it would be my favorite range and woods toy, my M44 Mosin. Fireballs and booms. Pretty handy for hunting too. With plenty of ammo availability.
     
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  3. BigBlue 94

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    Gewher 98.

    I have two, a Yugo M48 and a JP Sauer from 1916 that was sporterized in the late 50s. Beautifully, I might add. However, I need to cast the chamber to see what caliber it is. IIRC its a 30 cal.
     
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  4. Mosin Bubba

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    Swede Mauser carbine. The build quality on them is phenomenal and the length and weight aren't too onerous.

    i'd be happy with any peacetime-built Mauser you gave me really. Every country built theirs a little differently, but as long as you get the action right, the rifle isn't going to suck.
     
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  5. earlthegoat2

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    If only one and it had to be bolt action....
    I’d still get a Garand. Haha.

    Ok lll play.

    Enfield No 5 Mk 1 Jungle Carbine.
     
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  6. Terry G

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    Yugo 48A. Because I bought so much dang 8MM at something like 6 cents a round delivered. IMG_0229.JPG
     
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    Criterion #1 would be a receiver-mounted rear sight. That narrows down the field considerably. The main contenders would be the M1903A3 Springfield, the Pattern 14 / M1917 Enfield, and the No. 4 Enfield.

    Cons: For the M1903A3 Springfield, a very basic rear sight, and a 5-round magazine capacity. For the Pattern 14 / M1917 Enfield, heavy and clunky.

    Pros: For the No. 4 Enfield, the Singer micrometer rear sight is the best of the bunch. Also, has a 10-round magazine capacity, and a fast action. But the .303 rimmed cartridge is inferior to the .30-06.

    For these reasons I would pick the No. 4 Enfield, with the Singer sight and manufactured in one of the North American plants (Savage or Long Branch).
     
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  8. rule303

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    Schmidt-Rubin K-31 hands down, nothing else is even a close second. Built like a Swiss watch (or at least a Swiss rifle). Very accurate, even by sporting rifle standards, excellent two stage trigger, detachable mag, good sights, and a fast to work action.
     
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    This M-38 Husqvarna. Mojo adjustable peep sight. Seriously considering putting a no drill 2X red dot on it. Talk me out of it, or into it or whatever.
     
  10. JPIMBO

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    @JeeperCreeper that was a real honest thing to do. My dad had a Mauser with a 30-06 barrel and it had a receiver peep sight. I like 8mm Mauser just the right amount of recoil. I like bp maulers and kropatschek too if they would just shoot straight. Bp is the funnest to reload and shoot and when you hit something even a barn... joy!
     
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  11. MosinT53Hunter

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    Chinese T53.

    I have it, and its perfection in my eyes. I spent years looking for one ever since as a kid reading about it in the 1993 Gun Digest.
    It may not be perfect, but its perfect for me.
     
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  12. NIGHTLORD40K

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    If carrying it any distance is a possibility, FR8.
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    (Gunnys pic, I cant seem to take a decent one of mine.)

    Great sights, accurate, handy, common ammo. Whats not to like? I actually think the straight bolt handle makes for quicker follow up shots. I dont find the recoil objectionable at all, certainly better than a short Mosin.
    Runner up would be 03A3, a little more accurate thanks to the longer sight base, but alot heavier.
     
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  13. Dave DeLaurant

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    This is one of those 'which of your children is your favorite' questions. I have nine rifles that would qualify and honestly could not choose between them.

    Carcano Terni.jpg LE No.4 Mk.I Jungled.jpg MAS36.jpg Mosin Nagant M44 Romanian.jpg P14 Enfield.jpg Schmidt-Rubin K31.jpg SpringfieldM1903.jpg Steyr M95.jpg WehrmannsGewehr.jpg

    The one I'm having the most fun with at the moment is a Yugo M48 K98k doppelganger with a ZF-41 scope, which I acquried just this week (and will do a posting in due course), but I wouldn't choose it over any of the others.

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  14. BullRunBear

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    This is a tough one. I have to go with my Swedish Mauser, made in 1905. The build is just superb and it is accurate beyond my ability to shoot it. But the Enfield No. 4 is a close second.

    The only reason I don't include the '03 Springfield is because I have a Garand for the 30-06.

    Jeff
     
  15. BobABQ

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    I would want to keep my Swedish Mauser. I really like shooting that rifle. That rifle is is the primary reason I decided to take up reloading.
     
  16. hc18flyer

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    I am stuck on my M48 Yugo Scout rifle. I have the no-drill S &K mount and a Leupold 2.5x intermediate eye relief scope. I have a couple of NOE 8 mm molds that shoot very well out to 150 yards. My Grandson loves to bang the metal plates off hand with it. I have taken 2 deer with it and my own cast bullets. I have 2 sets of jacketed ladder loads that are 4 years old and never seem to shoot them, cast is just so much fun! Tom
     
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  17. rabid wombat

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    03A3....a lot of hours with it....HS and College ROTC....

    and I do own one :)
     
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    A butterknife-bolt Mannlicher-Schoenauer in 6.5 M-S, double set trigger, and S&B or Zeiss clawmount. You didn't say it had to be as issued. I've always wanted one.

    As issued, I'll stay with my 1930 Tula M91/30.
     
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  19. vkeith

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    K31 - Swiss precision and craftsmanship
     
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    A Swede Mauser............hands down great action; the one I had was dated 1907 and was accurate even with a shortened "sporterized" barrel length of 18
     
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    My FN Model 30 98 Mauser in 30-'06. Built hell for stout and handles like a champ
     
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    I love my much more well heeled Swiss, Swedish American guns, but if I could have only one, it would be my "Siege of Leningrad " M39. This rifle looks like it was there, and the dated parts would be appropriate. It simply shoots where I point it, the bore is good, and who doesn't like a rifle you can abuse a bit? As a bonus, I've won vintage matches with it shooting military ball after I Finn shimmed the hand guard with a couple match sticks. This is one that has an intangible connection to it. I was drawn to it at a gun show despite deplorable exterior condition and took a closer look at the rifling. It would have followed me home even at collectable pricing, and the price was significantly less. On my never sell list.
     
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  24. gotboostvr

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    I'd be pretty happy with a M40A5.

    I'd take a Enfield Jungle Carbine, MKIV, or Springfield 03A3 and be tickled pink though.
     
  25. adcoch1

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    I had a love affair with a 1895 pattern mauser, ran a mad minute with an smle#1 mk3, and have shot several 03's, but the one that has my heart is the 1917. Heavy, big, and overbuilt as the day is long, I just love them. Long strings of fire are a delight instead of a chore, the sights are phenomenal, and the dog leg bolt is perfect for ripping on.
     
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