If you could only have one

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I AM THINKING OF TRYING A SLIDE ACTION SHOTGUN WITH A BORE NOT OVERBORED OR UNDERBORED WITH NO CHOKES. 28 INCHES SEEMS NOT TOO LONG AND 18 NOT TOO SHORT. I THINK SMOOTHBORE IS THE WAY TO GO AND A CORRECT BORE MIGHT BE BEST FOR SLUGS AND BUCKSHOT AND OTHER SPREADER AMMUNITION MIGHT WORK WELL AT A DISTANCE NOT TOO FAR TO NOT CONSIDER A SLUG FOR ACCURACY IN SHOT PLACEMENT AND INCREASED TERMINAL EFFECTIVENESS. I SEE THREE BRANDS NOW WITH SEEMINGLY A CHOICE OF WOOD OTHER THAN WALNUT. I USED A TOOL TO SCRATCH SOME BEECH WOOD AND THE SCRATCHES I LEFT SUGGEST TO ME IT IS NOT A HARDWOOD WITH A TOOL LIKE THAT. 2 OF THE 3 ARE SOUNDING LIKE A BETTER OPTION FOR THE INCLUDED BARREL. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT GOING FOR A 3 AND A HALF INCH CHAMBER.

I WANT TO TRY OUT A HANDLOAD WITH A SHOTSHELL I WANT TO TRY OUT.

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Shotguns are anything but "the ultimate do it all weapon". Rifles still reign supreme because a shotgun is limited to 100-150 yards or so. Sure, shotguns do great with buckshot out to 25-35 yards and most people don't skeet shoot with 22's, but you're never going to get a good group at 1,000 yards with a shotgun :)

How often are you going to need to get a good grouping at 1,000 yards in a survival situation?
 
How often are you going to need to get a good grouping at 1,000 yards in a survival situation?
What kind of survival situation would require even trying a shot at 1000 yards? At that distance you do your best to avoid notice from a threat, not advertise your presence.
 
One of the factors in my choosing the 22 is the weight of the ammunition. I think in a survival situation a person may have to be mobile and I don’t think I can carry 500 rounds of 223 or 9mm in my backpack along with other essentials. Obviously it isn’t likely we will ever be limited to one gun I was just curious as to what you all would choose. Let’s hope it never comes down to a situation like this but let’s be ready if it does. Be well my friends.

I had some time to kill today, so I did some weighing with the electronic kitchen scale. I set ammo quantity at 200 instead of the 500 you mentioned.

Below are the non-scientific results of what I had on hand that could be fired from a long gun. As Robert Ripley said long ago, "believe it or not". :cool:
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200 rounds of each ammo type in cardboard ammo boxes. Some boxes have no ammo dividers, some have plastic or styrofoam ammo dividers.

.22 LR 40 grain = 1 lb. 10 oz.

.22 WMR 40 grain = 2 lbs. 3 oz.

9x19 115 grain = 5 lbs. 8 oz.

9x19 124 grain = 5 lbs. 15 oz.

.357 Magnum 110 grain = 5 lbs. 12 oz.

.357 Magnum 158 grain = 7 lbs. 5 oz.

.45 ACP 200 grain = 8 lbs. 15 oz.

.45 ACP 230 grain = 10 lbs. 0 oz.

5.56x45 55 grain = 5 lbs. 9 oz.

7.62x39 124 grain = 7 lbs. 6 oz.

7.62x51 147 grain = 11 lbs. 5 oz.

7.5x55 Swiss 174 grain = 12 lbs. 6 oz.

12 gauge 2-3/4 7-1/2 shot = 18 lbs. 2 oz.

12 gauge 2-3/4 4 Buck = 23 lbs. 0 oz.

12 gauge 2-3/4 00 Buck = 21 lbs. 4.0 oz.
 
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Stuff in your backpack weighs up fast and even a pound here or there makes a huge difference. Thanks for your research Chicharrones, its quite an eye opener.

It reminds me why I modified a bolt action carbine in .22 WMR several years ago. .22 magnum is fairly flat shooting to 100 yards with the right ammo, for nearly the same weight as .22 LR ammo.

Makes me think of semi-auto .22 WMR rifles. I remember wanting .22 mag rifles such as the Remington 597 or the CZ512 Carbine back when they were available. Of course, the coolest .22 autoloading carbine might just be the 3.8 pound KelTec CMR30.
 
Toss up. I wouldn't be happy to be forced to choose, but I could do with any one of the following:

20 gauge pump, probably a Mossberg 500.
4-inch .357 Mag revolver, probably a GP100.
Bolt action .22WMR rifle, like a Ruger 77/22.
Ruger Single Six with the .22LR and .22WMR cylinders.

If I could pair them up, it would be the 20 gauge and the Single Six, or the .357 and the .22WMR.
 
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