Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by AKElroy, Sep 29, 2013.
High Power, the standard by which all else are compared.
Glock 17L is my choice.
This is interesting to me. A few Sig votes, but not a single post that I could find that has a 226/228 as the one they can't live without. I expected a lot of love for the G19, and the thread certainly shows that. The BHP is getting a lot more love than I expected. I get it. Steal frames are hard to come by anymore, especially one so slim.
I wonder if the 9mm detractors, a few of which took the time to opine, have actually studied ballistic tables and real-life shooting stats as it relates to the 9.
Ammo design and effectiveness has come a long way. As I type this, I have a P226 Navy sitting next to me with a flush Mec/Gar 18 round mag, topped off with 124gr Double-Tap +Ps giving me 473ft lbs of energy. There are plenty of .45 and.40 caliber loads that do no better, and few carry 19 rounds.
Not trying to re-litigate the power vs capacity debate, because with modern 9mm ammo, that war is settled for me at least.
Choosing between the SIG P228 and Glock 19 would be very difficult. There are pros and cons to each. I'm setup for the Glock, but I really like SIGs. If I could have only one, I'd likely choose the P228.
Sig P226 tacops.... That'd be the last of my 9mms I'd sell.
A 228 or M11-a1 is one that I could live with, it's just not "the one".
I also really like my 6926 which is about the same gun size, function wise.
My son in law has been bugging me about the PCR (top), asking if I might want to part with it. After looking in the safe and realizing that I carry the BD more then the PCR. I decided that I could part with it.
There is another 9mm that I would use as a backup to the CZ.
First Gen. Kahr TP9
I dont own a handgun in 9mm. If I had to get one I guess it would be an m9. I shot one once and liked the way it felt and it was accurate. The bhp is intriguing also. But I have no need or use or want for a 9mm, and there was no option for that so I declined voting.
Yes. I have. But I am also a firm believer in the advice given by many expirenced folk In Teaching positions that you should carry the most powerful gun that you wont leave home. For me, thats a lightweight 357 loaded hot, and bigger options when I feel like it. A bulky 19 round capacity 9mm doesnt fit that bill for me. I shoot them all quickly and acurately so I ask myself, why bother with a 9mm. My sister on The other hand, well she shot the compact hk 9mm the best out of several things she tried out, so that's what I told her to get. She carries that around religiously now, and I aM glad she does.
I carry a G26, enjoy a 17L, compete with a 34. The 19 is second or third fiddle in all catagories - but is probably the best ONE all-around. I also have a M&P 9c, a Shield, and a 2022 with night sights. Two years ago, I didn't own a nine....
Only one I've not liked was a LC9. Sold it, and made two people happy!
I don't even particularly like Glocks, but the Glock 19 may be the best all around 9mm pistol currently available. Unfortunately, Glock doesn't extend their Mil/LE pricing to service connected disabled veterans like S&W does. So, I'll stick to an M&P 9 or 9c for now. Because of that conundrum I'll not vote in the poll.
CZ 75 compact and 75BD are my favorite 9's.
One 9mm for what?
Range/leisure/target shooting? 5906PC
Plastic? M&P 9 (Runners up plastic? G17, followed by USP9)
Lawfully concealed carry? Ah, this is where it starts to level out for me.
I chose other.
I tend to want smaller/lighter 9's for my needs, which is now mostly only retirement CCW. I spent enough years having to carry larger & higher capacity 9's on-duty. Not a target/plinker, anymore, either.
While I own a couple G26's, which are fine little guns for basic plastic pistols, I have a couple other preferences for "long haul" 9mm's. I have a late production (end of 90's) 3913, a CS9 and a SW999c (think P99 9c AS).
The 3rd gen S&W's are reliable and more than accurate enough for my needs (I can use them to shoot wooden clothespins off the target backboards at 7-10 yds with any of the various duty loads we've issued.)
The 999c has a better trigger (granted, that's after having fired close to 15K rounds fired through it), and after an initial tolerance issue with a Walther trigger bar guide post (occasional light-strikes in DA mode, and it's an pretty uncommon tolerance issue to occur, FWIW), the gun has been completely reliable. It's even a bit more accurate when pushed, too (which I found interesting as I realized it over the years).
The 3913 & 999c are the 9's I choose when I'm going to be pushing myself (to check basics) for aimed precision fire out at 50-90+ yards. The G26's are also accurate, but they don't have quite the same level of precise triggers as the TDA-type pistols.
As an armorer for the Glock, S&W and P99/SW99 pistols, I find them all easy enough to maintain. Glock parts are somewhat easier, as the 3rd gen guns have been relegated to LE-only status and parts are getting a bit less available than previously. Walther parts? I guess we'll see how they do not that they've set up their own import business. Waiting for parts to arrive from Germany (to Walther America/S&W) used to be a bit unpredictable.
The Sig 9's are pretty decent, and I almost bought a P239 9mm when I went through the Sig pistol armorer class, but they thought very dearly of the 239 when it came to individual officer pricing for their chunky little single stack. Good guns, though. Spring-dependent (number of springs & longevity of some of them), and they clearly tell their armorers that they're "wet" guns when it comes to sufficient lubrication. If I didn't already have some nice compact/subcompact 9's, and the 239's were more reasonably priced, I'd own one.
So ... other, it was.
As much as I love all of my 9mm's. In the end I would pick one of my Sig 210s.
I do only own one 9mm, and that is by design.
It is the Kahr PM9 that I have owned for eight years. It has more carry time than the rest of my handguns put together.
My M&P9C works just fine.
I finally broke down and bought a 9mm handgun, just to have one, and only one. I only had one requirement a single stack magazine. Found a nice shooter grade S&W Model 39-2. Don't ask me to narrow my selection of .38/357 revolvers.
If I could only have one, it would probably be a S&W 6906. It falls into the Jack of all trades category like the Glock 19, but all metal, hammer fired, and traditional double action.
Voted Berretta M9 because that's what I'm most familiar with. Mine has crimson trace grips on it and is my house gun.
Only one dedicated 9mm in my collection: Sig 239
Great carry gun, great range gun, decent house gun.
I am happy with it.
Picked the 226 in the poll though, because it is the closest and I have one of those too.
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