captainamerica
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But wasn't that bakery going to sell the cake(s) and just reject the request to cater at the reception?
If you even think you'd like an AR, you're not welcome here.......
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I think this is an illustration of two phenomena that are a problem in our country:
1) saying what you feel at that moment publicly on the Internet without thinking about it
I'm sure as a business woman she would have eventually decided this was a bad idea if she thought about it long enough.
2) the inability to see that other people in this country lead very different lives and may have vastly different priorities for achieving life, liberty and pursuit of happiness
Unfortunately, the people most afflicted with this seem to be the people living in the biggest cities.
I think it's insanely stupid for a restaurant owner to express any political opinion publicly. No such thing as too many customers in that biz.
After all, eating establishments are where people of different backgrounds should mix to see the common ground of food.
1) saying what you feel at that moment publicly on the Internet without thinking about it
I'm sure as a business woman she would have eventually decided this was a bad idea if she thought about it long enough.
2) the inability to see that other people in this country lead very different lives and may have vastly different priorities for achieving life, liberty and pursuit of happiness
Unfortunately, the people most afflicted with this seem to be the people living in the biggest cities.
I think it's insanely stupid for a restaurant owner to express any political opinion publicly. No such thing as too many customers in that biz.
After all, eating establishments are where people of different backgrounds should mix to see the common ground of food.
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I think it's her right to put up that sign in her restaurant . If she can make ends meet by turning away customers , good for her .
Would I go in there , no . I once returned a Christmas gift that I was buying for my girlfriend because they had a sign posted " no firearms allowed " . I didn't see the sign when I went in and made the purchase , but learned about it the next day on one of these forums . So I returned it the next day and told them why .
Would I go in there , no . I once returned a Christmas gift that I was buying for my girlfriend because they had a sign posted " no firearms allowed " . I didn't see the sign when I went in and made the purchase , but learned about it the next day on one of these forums . So I returned it the next day and told them why .
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So the restaurant owner is basically refusing anyone who has ever been in the Military and many of those in Law Enforcement.
Great move...
Great move...
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Yes, all the bakeries and florists that were set up said they have many gay customers and are happy to serve them, they just can't support same-sex marriage by helping provide integral parts of the event.
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justice06rr said:
It seems to be that way. Even the OP of this thread, a good percentage of THR, including myself, maybe you,justice,are not wanted.
It makes absolutely no sense.
My 2¢: The restaurant owner is free to prohibit ARs and those who believe in the right to own them. I have a right to spend my money with her competitors.
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Lots of good posts. Very true that it's the store owners right. What chaps my hide is when this kind of mindset creeps into areas like our public school system where an innocent child is treated like a murderer or terrorist if these idiots in power find nail clippers, a drawing of a ray gun toting spaceman or rifle packing soldier or cowboy, or even pencils or pens with Glock or Ruger on them.
We live in Maine, quite a ways from her restaurants but we enjoy traveling to Portland a number of times a year and like to go out to nice restaurants when we do. Needless to say, we won't be patronizing her establishments and will be bringing this article to the attention of everyone I know.
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If you watch North Woods Law it appears everyone in Maine is a poacher or meth addict and talks with a funny accent. And now this, I think I'll stay out in Idaho.
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If you've never been there, don't talk. I have family in Bangor and I live in Vermont. I'd take this high corner of the country ANY TIME over the rest of this liberal countryside.
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Ask the restaurant owner a question:
Until the purchase of my first AR two weeks ago, I owned two SKS and four AK clones. She said nothing about these, or M1As, or Ruger Mini 14s etc.
---Before buying the AR, she must have wanted my business?
Until the purchase of my first AR two weeks ago, I owned two SKS and four AK clones. She said nothing about these, or M1As, or Ruger Mini 14s etc.
---Before buying the AR, she must have wanted my business?
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If there are.. Will you oppose them?
Will you picket their offices and carry a sign?
We could use the help...
Her whole premise is dumb. Thought police indeed.
Just because she 'wore her heart on her sleeve' and blabbed her opinion for all the world to see, that doesn't mean everyone else will. What's she gonna do? Question everyone who enters the establishment? If an AR owner wants to eat there, just go in and eat. How's she gonna know how you feel about the matter? I'm sure there are many establishments that are owned by people that feel the same as her. It's just that they aren't silly enough to do what she did, and I'm sure there are plenty of AR owners who have used the services of those establishments, and neither party has been the wiser, because quite frankly, who cares about that type of opinion at a restaurant? It's totally irrelevant to the act of buying and eating food.
What a goofy situation... Just a bunch of noise.
Just because she 'wore her heart on her sleeve' and blabbed her opinion for all the world to see, that doesn't mean everyone else will. What's she gonna do? Question everyone who enters the establishment? If an AR owner wants to eat there, just go in and eat. How's she gonna know how you feel about the matter? I'm sure there are many establishments that are owned by people that feel the same as her. It's just that they aren't silly enough to do what she did, and I'm sure there are plenty of AR owners who have used the services of those establishments, and neither party has been the wiser, because quite frankly, who cares about that type of opinion at a restaurant? It's totally irrelevant to the act of buying and eating food.
What a goofy situation... Just a bunch of noise.
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i guess an SKS is fine.:banghead:
a ar15 wasn't even used in the orlando shooting
a ar15 wasn't even used in the orlando shooting
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Anyone who admonishes people for their thoughts, is pretty stupid to begin with. You might think you would like to fly, it doesn't mean you can or will.
Misdirected effort
This woman, and anyone else of her ilk, ARE "the problem".
As long as society focuses its angst on the instrument and not the actor or action, the tragedy of mass homicides will never end.
We need to start separating the word "gun" from "violence". In any of the recent mass killings other weapons could have been, and in some cases were, brought to bear with just as vicious a result.
I own a few black rifles and none of them ever hurt anybody (with the exception of the occasional hot casing landing on my bare arm). Two of them were purpose-built for hunting to which the direct impingement system lends itself well. The shooter can maintain good cheek-to-stock weld and sight on target without changing his or her hold on the weapon and a new round is chambered after each shot, permitting accurate follow-on shots and a humane kill. My point is that some of the most significant advances in sporting firearms came about as improvements to arms used by the military. The AR-10/AR-15 format rifle is just another one of those advances. They are no more exclusively "weapons of war" than the rifled-barrel flintlock or the long bow are. Why should anyone think that denying me of a useful tool would make someone else safer? That's a childish myth.
By vilifying the weapon and not the actor, this woman is perpetuating the myth that "guns kill people". As long as that mindset prevails we will never make any progress in stopping mass killing violence. The goal of any mass murderer is terror - to strike fear in the hearts and minds of men and in doing so control them - regardless of ideology or motivation. Terror is a tool used to great advantage by causes that have no other means. The instrument of terror is irrelevant to the terrorist.
And, no, I wouldn't eat at her restaurants. Prolly couldn't afford it anyway.
This woman, and anyone else of her ilk, ARE "the problem".
As long as society focuses its angst on the instrument and not the actor or action, the tragedy of mass homicides will never end.
We need to start separating the word "gun" from "violence". In any of the recent mass killings other weapons could have been, and in some cases were, brought to bear with just as vicious a result.
I own a few black rifles and none of them ever hurt anybody (with the exception of the occasional hot casing landing on my bare arm). Two of them were purpose-built for hunting to which the direct impingement system lends itself well. The shooter can maintain good cheek-to-stock weld and sight on target without changing his or her hold on the weapon and a new round is chambered after each shot, permitting accurate follow-on shots and a humane kill. My point is that some of the most significant advances in sporting firearms came about as improvements to arms used by the military. The AR-10/AR-15 format rifle is just another one of those advances. They are no more exclusively "weapons of war" than the rifled-barrel flintlock or the long bow are. Why should anyone think that denying me of a useful tool would make someone else safer? That's a childish myth.
By vilifying the weapon and not the actor, this woman is perpetuating the myth that "guns kill people". As long as that mindset prevails we will never make any progress in stopping mass killing violence. The goal of any mass murderer is terror - to strike fear in the hearts and minds of men and in doing so control them - regardless of ideology or motivation. Terror is a tool used to great advantage by causes that have no other means. The instrument of terror is irrelevant to the terrorist.
And, no, I wouldn't eat at her restaurants. Prolly couldn't afford it anyway.
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I tend not to go into any establishment that overly voices their opinion and/or moral obligation publicly, even if I agree with them. It's bad business.
My business has never had the coffers so overfilled that I felt the need to alienate ANY customer. I don't care what you believe in or who you are voting for. Just pay me for my services have a nice day, and come back and see us.
That said, I never shy away from being a gun owner at work. I have customers that I talk shooting with and about the latest gun purchases. I did have one new customer get spooked or offended because I had left my empty holster on my belt along with a slide loop of 5 .357 rounds after returning from the gun range at lunch
If you get bent out of shape over some empty leather because I was trying to squeeze in a little recreation instead of eating, then we probably aren't going to get along well anyway...but I will still be glad to take your money and won't bar you from my store
My business has never had the coffers so overfilled that I felt the need to alienate ANY customer. I don't care what you believe in or who you are voting for. Just pay me for my services have a nice day, and come back and see us.
That said, I never shy away from being a gun owner at work. I have customers that I talk shooting with and about the latest gun purchases. I did have one new customer get spooked or offended because I had left my empty holster on my belt along with a slide loop of 5 .357 rounds after returning from the gun range at lunch
If you get bent out of shape over some empty leather because I was trying to squeeze in a little recreation instead of eating, then we probably aren't going to get along well anyway...but I will still be glad to take your money and won't bar you from my store- Status
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