Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by jon86, Sep 12, 2011.
Thanks for your answers folks.
prefer either. I think my Wingmaster and 590 SPX are both high-quality shotguns. No, correct that. I know they are.
I have two buddies with Mossbergs, and I have shot them a bit. Nothing wrong with them, and I wouldn't feel under armed with one, but I just like the Remingtons better.
No real reason other than I know the Remingtons like my tongue knows my teeth, and if I have to use one for serious purposes, my hands just know what to do.
At the end of the day, it really is the Indian, not the arrow. If you are proficient with the Mossberg, then that is the one for you.
It's really all about which one you practice with enough to just automatically operate without any thought.
Lifetime round count has to be well over 50K, maybe twice that. Reliability up the wazoo.
I've never taken an 870 apart and put it back together blindfolded, but I could. The modular design is user friendly.
I have nothing against Mossbergs. They are good shotguns.
But for me, 870s just plain work.....
Beyond that, I'd take a 590 gladly (got one of those too) if that was what I was offered in a pinch. I would take a 500 for that matter, and be a bit more careful with it. But my hands just know an 870 and can run it without thinking, and given a choice that's what I'll pick up if I need a serious shotgun. Overall it just feels right to me in a way the Mossbergs or any other aluminum receiver pumpgun design doesn't.
The 870 feels more solid. More smooth.
The mossberg has 2 advantages in my never-so-humble opinion.
The safety location is better as it is easily seen and felt. More intuitive too.
The stronger mossberg spring makes it harder to short stroke.
That said...I own 2 870 M&Ps
The Ithaca 37 is more finicky than the 870.
I like the safety better on the 870, its just like my pellet gun and my 10/22. I have PG on mine and I dont have to move my hand to release the safety. 870's feel more solid to me. I wanted to accessorize, and there are lots of options for the 870. Military and Ret.LEO friends of mine said to go Remmy. My brothers both have one, although they look nothing alike. I've taken it apart with my eyes closed.
500 was only shotty I've seen break. But I think that had more to do with the owner than the weapon.
590 is a cool little devil though.
I dont always shoot shotguns. But when I do, I prefer 870.
So needless to say, an 870 feels quite right in my hands. My dad has a Mossberg 590, and I've handled it quite a bit. The first thing that I notice each time I pick up the Mossberg is how much the pump moves around and rattles. Everything about the gun just feels rougher, looser, more square, more utilitarian. Plus, after so much "training" with an 870, I could never get used to that funky safety on the Mossberg. When I went looking for an autoloading pheasant gun a few years back, I picked the Browning Silver Hunter - and one of the main reasons is the safety is in the exact same spot and works exactly the same as on the 870.
If I had grown up shooting Mossbergs, my preferences would most likely be completely different.
My friend was brought up on Remington & Glock. He has some unknown distaste for anything but the Remington 870 that is honestly just because he is used to the 870. It only gets on my nerves when we are talking to new shooters and he steers them away from the 500's just because. Also he really loves his Glocks because he knows how to operate and maintenance them.
Let's contrast... I wanted to get a shotgun and realized the Mossberg 500 was a cheaper gun that did everything the 870 did at a lower cost. I steer people towards the 500's because IMHO it's an easier gun to strip and clean and it costs less. As far as pistols go, every pistol I shoot I like better than the Glock.
I think it mostly comes down to what you are used to.
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