If You Open Carry
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Happiness Is A Warm Gun
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Sorry I will try to keep the logic to a minimum in the future.
CAPTAIN MIKE
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Two Good Ideas
Three Good Ideas:
1. Use a retention holster if you Open Carry.
2. Learn appropriate self-defense gun retention Combatives.
3. Practice with another gun owner, so you can both upgrade your skills.
I carry both ways - concealed and open. While gun grabs by bad guys against LEOs happen from time to time, and while they could hypothetically happen to an Open Carry civilian, I believe statistics are on our side. And in any event the first two items on my list above give you an edge in keeping your firearm where it belongs -- in YOUR control.
Three Good Ideas:
1. Use a retention holster if you Open Carry.
2. Learn appropriate self-defense gun retention Combatives.
3. Practice with another gun owner, so you can both upgrade your skills.
I carry both ways - concealed and open. While gun grabs by bad guys against LEOs happen from time to time, and while they could hypothetically happen to an Open Carry civilian, I believe statistics are on our side. And in any event the first two items on my list above give you an edge in keeping your firearm where it belongs -- in YOUR control.
230RN
2A was "political" when it was first adopted.
Tha-a-at's better. See, you gotta go with your feelings, your suppositions, your extrapolations and imaginings from dime novels and video games.
For supplemental reading, I hereby assign you to read Geko 38's half-vast body of work on the subject just to get the flavor of how to post.
Glad you're finally getting with the program.
Steve Raacke
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Why would a suicidal nut bother attacking a cop hoping to get shot? Why not just find a bridge and jump off? Crazy people confuse me sometimes.
jahwarrior
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the fact is, people who OC are at no more more risk than people who CC, except from cops who want to harrass them for OCing.
911Boss
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General Geoff
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Sometimes people don't have the guts to pull the proverbial trigger on themselves, and must get someone else to do it for them. This is why it's called Suicide By Cop.
Drgong
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has there been a case of a OC being jumped for their gun?
Seriously? I know cops, but what about OCers?
Seriously? I know cops, but what about OCers?
General Geoff
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I'm sure it's happened at some point in time over the last hundred fifty years, somewhere, but it's so exceedingly rare you have a better chance of being struck by lightning.
stevelyn
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And carry a combat folder or fixed blade on your none gun side.
B.D. Turner
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What does this have to do with open carry? Shooting an unarmed person is likely to harm your freedom for at least a couple of years. Words cannot cause you physical harm. What if there were no witnesses to hear his threats. Would it look more like murder? You bet.
B.D. Turner
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Wouldn't a less than lethal weapon make more sense? (OC spray)
Im not saying not take a knife but not all violent situations call for deadly force.
JesseL
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stevelyn said:
How about an automatic single-action out-the-front double-edged knife?
B.D. Turner said:
Someone trying to wrestle my pistol away would almost definitely call for deadly force, and I certainly wouldn't want to use OC on someone at contact distance.
JesseL
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B.D. Turner said:
Who said anything about shooting anybody?
The question is: Does open carry make you a potential target for a nut bent on getting your gun or trying to get you to kill him, and does that possibility this concern you if you open carry?
Drgong
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from what I know from folks who open carry is this.
Most poeple don't even notice...
Most poeple don't even notice...
B.D. Turner
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This is apparently case of suicide by cop.
Replace the cop with a Joe citizen and you have a non armed attack or maybe a strong arm robbery. Anyone grabbing your firearm should be treated as a deadly force incident. If you are going to CCW you should have some gun retention skills.
This is apparently case of suicide by cop.
Replace the cop with a Joe citizen and you have a non armed attack or maybe a strong arm robbery. Anyone grabbing your firearm should be treated as a deadly force incident. If you are going to CCW you should have some gun retention skills.
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One instance doesn't make a difference.
You can find a single instance of about anything in this nation.
That doesn't mean open carry is any riskier than walking across a street. I'm more about as likely to be attacked by an alligator than be accosted by a mentally ill man wanting my gun.
I've only felt uncomfortable OCing one time and that was at a "street" party in downtown Louisville, where the crowd was very dense and I just wasn't comfortable with that many people that close to me and my Glock.
John
You can find a single instance of about anything in this nation.
That doesn't mean open carry is any riskier than walking across a street. I'm more about as likely to be attacked by an alligator than be accosted by a mentally ill man wanting my gun.
I've only felt uncomfortable OCing one time and that was at a "street" party in downtown Louisville, where the crowd was very dense and I just wasn't comfortable with that many people that close to me and my Glock.
John
I'm not a big fan of open carry by civilians is upsetting for the general population.Twenty yours ago in was commonplace around Las Vegas [once or twice a week]and few ventured into the desert unarmed.Thirty years ago you seldom saw a P/U without the obligatory 30-30 in a rack in the back window.Been years since I've seen one now!
JesseL
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Lashlarue said:
So above some threshold open carry is okay because it's common, but below that threshold people shouldn't open carry because it's not common enough to be acceptable?
Amen to that. You can always find nutcases and use them as reasons against anything. However, if people have my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, it is a problem with them and not me. They merely are living in the wrong country and should move ASAP.
Seriously, a nutcase who would attack someone who is openly carrying a firearm is a danger to society with or without firearms. He would just as likely attack someone for any other reason with that type of thinking. At least with law-abiding citizens having the right to bear arms, the citizens can protect themselves against such maniacs.
As a sort of side-note, I open carried for the first time yesterday. I was carrying my CZ P-01 on my side while blueberry and peach picking in Northwestern Indiana. Granted it was a sort of rural area, but nobody seemed to mind in the least bit. As I walked back with my younger sister and around other small children, nobody's heads exploded and nobody brought out their steak knives. I wasn't even hassled by any police officers. All in all, a very pleasant experience.
Whenever I do have the chance, I will exercise my Constitutional right to bear arms because, as we all know, a right unexercised is a right lost and this right is far too important to lose.
Or he's full of crap and just running his mouth. Has anything like that happened in any of the many states that have concealed or open carry? Even if it has, which I seriously doubt, it's going to be something rare enough that it wouldn't influence my decisions.bogie said:
And it seems to me that the key to getting people over this fear of guns isn't to hide them and make them rarer, but to get people used to seeing them carried innocuously. Keep trying to pretend they don't exist and more and more people are going to learn to associate them only with criminals.
What I find most disturbing about this argument is that we're even having it, and with our "own kind" no less!
The state of civil liberties in this country is dire.
Almost everyone has forgotten what Jefferson expressed so well:
Everything else be darned. It's liberty. It's an enumerated civil right. That's all we should need to know.
The state of civil liberties in this country is dire.
Almost everyone has forgotten what Jefferson expressed so well:
Everything else be darned. It's liberty. It's an enumerated civil right. That's all we should need to know.
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