ignorance is bliss

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I got home from work to an interesting story.My 6yr old son had gotten into trouble at daycare for playing "army"......he didnt have any toy gun but was just making the sounds and pointing a finger(not..the middle one).After speaking with my son about the issue and my wife who had discussed the issue with the woman who was watching the children,I am without words...where do they get these people?
 
This seems to crop up more and more ... Just what are they supposed to play now dolls Give me a break look at the post the other day where kid got suspended for having a Gi joe gun
 
Gotta keep the warrior genes alive, no matter how hard some do-gooder tries to stamp them out. Even Prince Charming had to kick some butt to save the fair maiden.
Talk to your son and reinforce that he's always A (the) Good Guy, only shooting imaginary "Bad Guys" and to never point his gun's muzzle (or his finger) at anything he doesn't want to destroy, that his finger is always loaded (imaginary bullets... tho sometimes he'll have to reload, this isn't TV or the movies ya know :D ), to keep his trigger off the finger until his sights are on the target (OK, not to go "Pow" until he's got 'em in his sights) and finally to make sure that his (imaginary) bullets don't hurt anyone else behind his targeted victim, er "Bad Guy"...

He'll be good to go.
Oh yeah, tell him to clean his gun once he's done fingerpainting for the day too. ;)

As for the "teacher/watcher"... all I can say is, "Some people's kids"

You could always buy him some toy soldiers or a couple of GI Joes, cause no matter whatcha do, boys are gonna be boys (thank goodness).
 
The feminization of manhood starts early these days.

Nah, the concern is that by allowing kids to go "bang! bang!" we are conditioning them to be killing machines. Hey, my generation did that and with cap guns no less. None of my playmates did time in the pen either and I'm about the only one with jail time to my credit (OK, I was a deputy). The difference is that as kids, we knew it was games and didn't want to hurt one another.

The same cannot be said of today's kids who play these video games and watch the violence on TV or in the movies (Lone Ranger shot the gun of the BG's hands most of the time and if there was any killing in the TV cowboy shows, it was only b/c the bad guy gave the good guy no choice). There was no glorification of killing back then.
 
If I have zero tolerance for "zero tolerance", does that make me a hypocrite?

And to keep this gun related, when you do a finger gun, what are you imagining? Revolver or semi?
 
"These people" come from watching TV personality shows, like the defunct Rosie shows and mainstream TV news and listening to "moderate" and liberal talk radio. They also get programed by the Light-weight intellects that teach the classes caregivers are required to take.
 
My 4 year old Grandson got in trouble at pre-school. When it snowed he made a snowman. When the teach asked him why the snow man had a stick in his arms, my Grandson told her it was a gun not a stick.

When my Daughter came to pick him up after school, she was confronted by the teach. The teach then pulled out the stick and explained to my Daughter that we can't have guns in school.
My Daughter then told her that it was a stick and not a gun! They then had a 10 minute argument about if the stick was a gun or not!!!!!!!!!

Abenaki
 
17 years ago when I was in elementary, I dressed up as a '30s gangster. I figured back then they probably wouldn't like me bringing a toy gun (since they were all black back then still) so to finish my costume I rolled up some brown paper for a "cigar". I had to get rid of my extra touch since I was promoting smoking, they said I should have just brought a toy gun! :scrutiny:

Glad I am not going to elementary now... I probably would have been expelled and/or arrested.
 
where do they get these people?
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Where do they get these people? I'll tell you where. They get them from good, well meaning parents who leave their kids with ninny nannies because the parents don't think they have any other choices. Kids raised largely by ninnies usually grow up to be ninnies themselves, and that's where these people come from. It's a downward spiral, and appears to be getting worse.

The only way to break the downward spiral is to take responsibility for the things being taught to your kids. If you can't teach them directly yourself (not everyone can or should), the least you can do is to truly delegate the job and not merely hand it over to others.

Your current nanny has just told you that she's a ninny. If you don't want your kid to grow up to think like her, it'd be a good idea to find someone else for your kid to spend the workday with.

pax

The thing about having a baby is that thereafter you have it. -- Jean Kerr
 
Thank God for The High Road.
When I can't put up with the politician/poluteicians political correct etc etc etc I come here for some rest and relaxation. It is comforting to know that there is some inteligent life on earth.
Enough said
Vern
 
Anyone old enough to remember when the Sears Christmas catalog had two or three pages of toy guns? Used to drool over them like I do the stuff at the gunshop now. :D
Hell, they used to have several pages of real guns.
 
At the risk of going off-topic, it seems to me that there's a correlation between the start of this sort of feminization of boys and the rise in so-called ADD/ADHD (or whatever they're calling it these days).

They'd be better off finding a way to channel boys' and girls' natural competitive instincts rather than trying to pretend they don't exist.
 
Anyone old enough to remember when the Sears Christmas catalog had two or three pages of toy guns?
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Yeppers.
I even remember when they had COMMERCIALS for toy guns on TV.

Anyone here remember the Johnny Seven OMA?
Greenie Stickem Caps?
The spy guns from Mattel? The Rifle that folded up to look like a radio, the pistol that folded up to look like a camera and the derringer that folded up to look like a big pocket knife?

In the mid 1960s, I can't recall the brand (maybe someone can refresh my memory here) made 3 sets. One was a Safari set with a Bolt Action Rifle and a Colt Woodsman pistol. An Old West set with a SAA revolver and Lever Action Carbine and a Military set with an M14 and a 1911. The interesting thing was that they all fed from the magazines and functioned like real, used 2 piece plastic cartridges that actually fired, and were life size. You could buy them separately but if you bought the set it had a mounting plaque so you could display them on your wall.
 
Bluesbear
Topper made the three sets to which you refer.
I had the Lieutenant Set, which had an M14 and a 45 Auto which shot real live spring loaded plastic bullets... remember?
http://users.rcn.com/ed.ma.ultranet/deluxred.htm
Marx and Mattell also made a bunch of guns I collected (darn, wish I still had each and every one of them) while Dad had his collection, I had a toy box full of mine
"I loved the smell of blasted roll paper caps in the morning" and you can tell how warped I ended up ;) , so standingbear, count your blessings that your son is growingup in a kinder and gentler world (yeah right)
Check out some of these as well
http://www.vintage-toys.com/?n=3
You'll find the Mugumba safari set by Topper there somewhere
 
That's it Babalouie ! Johnny Eagle ! I only had the LT Pistol but it was cool. My Dad took me to downtown Louisville, on 4th Street to a Surplus store and bought me a genuine WWII brown holster for the excessive sum of $2.50. It fit perfectly. I was the coolest kid in the neighborhood with that. I also had the Mattel M-16 which was also life sized.

Ahhh the good old days.
 
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