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I'll be at the GLBT Pride Festival this weekend...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Andrew Rothman, Jun 25, 2005.

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  1. Andrew Rothman

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    (crossposted from my blog)

    ...to spend some time with the Pink Pistols, work the booth, watch the parade and meet people.

    No, incidentally, I'm not gay. (Everybody together now: "NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT!" Thank you.)

    I am what used to be known around here as a "civilized straight" -- basically a non-jerk toward folks who don't happen to share my sexual orientation.

    So why am I going? `Cause I love the idea of the Pink Pistols. They say, in effect, we are a group that often gets picked on and bashed, and we're not going to tolerate that any more. We recognize our own value as individuals and will not let someone take that away.

    They also have some neat slogans, like "Armed Gays Bash Back" and "Pick on Someone Your Own Caliber" and the one on my brand spankin' new t-shirt:

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    Oh, but guys? Didya have to choose black for the t-shirt? I mean, it's gonna be HOT out there.

    I know, I know. Black is slimming. Come to think of it, so is perspiring to death.

    Oh, well. At least I'll look fabulous.

    Feel free to come out (heh) and say hi. I'll be there all afternoon Sunday.

    Links:
    http://www.tcpride.org/
    http://pinkpistolstc.org/
     
  2. BlackCat

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    Incidentally, I'm starting a club for straight shooters. I'm still working on a name.
     
  3. Hawken50

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    don't you mean "Faaaaaabulous" :D



    think anybody makes an "I'm not blind, I just shoot like it." shirt. i could use one of those.
     
  4. Andrew Rothman

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    The extended "a" is understood from context. :neener:
     
  5. cslinger

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    As far as I am concerned I don't care what folks do in their own private lives as long as it doesn't hurt me or other folks. You wanna roll around in green jello and have sex with a goat while smoking a doobie.......you have at it, just try to keep the noise down after 10.

    The more legal, responsible shooters we win over to our side the better no matter what their orientation is.

    Now playing for the "other team" really isn't for me personally but like I said your business is your business, none of mine.

    Chris
     
  6. 50 Freak

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    At the end of the road, everyman stands before the big guy and has to explain himself. No one else is with him so how he lived his life is between him and his maker. No one elses business.

    I'm glad the Pink Pistols are pro 2nd amendment. At least the anti's can't say gays are against us too. Every bit helps in our cause.
     
  7. 1911 guy

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    Agree with sentiments

    I agree with what's posted here so far. I personally disagree with the gay lifestyle, but everybody has the right to make their own choices. One side bashing the other accomplishes nothing. Good for the Pink Pistols for standing up for Second Ammendment rights in a culture that seems to be predominantly anti.
     
  8. fistful

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    Hey, me too! Even when I was protesting homosexual marriage last summer.


    looking forward to the Fundamentalist Christian Pride Parade,
    fistful
     
  9. dk-corriveau

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    Matt,

    I think that is a great organization. I wish I could get some of my gay friends (and my wife for that matter) to take up arms, both for their own protection and to expand our sport.
     
  10. dfaugh

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    What I find interesting

    is that the Pink Pistols are getting more "ink" for Second Amendment rights than almost anyone else right now. BECAUSE they are gay...Tells you something about our media, in that minorities (any minority) gets more time with media coverage than they would otherwise!

    More power to 'em, for standing up for a cause!
     
  11. Biker

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    If there's a pro-gun lesbian club, I wanna join.
    Biker
     
  12. Marshall

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    Hmmm......well.......guess I'm just too red around the neck to agree. The whole gun thing is not going to live or die because of gays with pink pistols wearing tutu's. Besides, I don't want my future grandkids to have to be made to read books in school like "My other daddy" and be taught that's an OK way of life. Oh yea, not that there's anything wrong with that. :rolleyes:
     
  13. The_Antibubba

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    I belong to the Pink Pistols group in Sacramento. If you thing most regular liberals are hoplophobes, you should see the gay community. At the San Fran Pride event this weekend, the Pink Pistols are one of the biggest controversies. They are trying to prevent the PP from wearing empty holsters! They're issuing all sorts of warnings against weapons (as if you can carry in SF anyway)-heck, they don't even want PP to carry signs. Meanwhile, the BDSM crowd is wildly cheered. :confused:

    I'm wondering if there is some sort of correllation between the degree of a group's oppression and their later opposition to firearms? Three examples:

    1. The African-American Community-After centuries of slavery and discrimination, their "leaders" call for gun control-because of the rate of black on Black crime-for their own good.

    2. Jews-Sixty years after the Holocaust, we cry out "NEVER AGAIN!" but are some of the most ardent supporters of gun control. Notable exceptions exist, like JPFO. Israeli Jews, who's lives are constantly threatened by "enemies foreign and domestic", are also well-armed. Of course.

    3. Gays-The same people who were being beaten by the cops not 25 years ago now vehemently urge their own people not to arm themselves, and let the police handle it.


    Comments are welcome.
     
  14. Andrew Rothman

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    Marshall, remember what your mom said about, "If you have nothing nice to say"?

    Ten Pink Pistols have more political impact than a hundred rednecks with guns.

    Even if you can't open your mind to the idea that your religious beliefs are not natural law, at least acknowledge the political benefit and keep your bigotry to yourself for the sake of a greater good.

    And knock off the obnoxious stereotypes. I've never seen even one Pink Pistols member (male or female) in a tutu -- not that there's anything wrong with that! :neener:
     
  15. Andrew Rothman

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    Well, sure! Boldly flying in the face of that correlation is why I'm a straight, Jewish Pink Pistol member.

    Maybe I should join the NAACP, too? :D
     
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    I'm with Biker (just don't tell my wife ;) )

    Black Cat....here's an idea for the name of a gruiop of straight shooters...
    How about ...


    "STRAIGHT SHOOTERS"

    \Sorry couldn't resist :evil:
     
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    Alot of you are missing the point of the Pink Pistols. What you've got is an oppressed minority group who's standing up and taking responsibility for thier own self preservation. That is what should be applauded. More personal responsibility, less police.
     
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    My neck of the woods is way too rural for pride parades and gay bookstores but I believe every law abiding citizen has the right, not priviledge, to own a firearm so they choose.
    Consequently there is a pink pistol memebership card somewhere in the house.
    It makes my wife chuckle every time she sees it.
     
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    Yea, that's what concerns me. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Matthew748

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    Any pro gun group is OK by me. I have read about this group and their presence seems like a good thing, since it goes against the stereotypes most of society holds regarding gun owners. In general, I don’t have anything to do with groups or organizations formed around religion, race, sexuality, or age, etc. but that’s just me.
     
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    "A BLACK holster with BROWN shoes?!? Ohmigod!!!! Faux paus!"

    That's a quote. Late '90s, midtown Atlanta. If there's ever a town that needs an organization like Pink Pistols, Atlanta's it. I lived/worked there long enough around the gay "community" to know that, like many liberals, they are some of the most elitist, snobbish and lockstep-conformist people I've ever met. Anyone who's not gay is a "redneck" or a "homophobe." I've known quite a few respectable folks who were gay, and they all got the heck out of Atlanta first chance they got.

    I understand it's a good party town, though. That said, Atlanta touts itself as the "gay Mecca" for the Southeast. Every now and then, there are "rallies" for some hazily-defined "rights," but from what I've seen, no agenda or progress ever gets made. I went to one with a couple of friends, and there were two very loud, ill-informed and emotional speeches (one of which mentioned "getting guns off the streets"), then when people got bored, they started debating whether the community as a whole should endorse barebacking (look it up).

    That said, Atlanta is seeing another upsurge in violent crime lately, particularly among/against minorities and gays. In both communities, you have pet politicians spoon-feeding the mentality that guns are bad...why would you want one of those? while crusading for criminals' rights over those of victims. We need folks like the Pink Pistols and Ken Blanchard to come down here and talk some sense into somebody...
     
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    Homeschool your kids then or send them to private school if you don't want them to be exposed to that. Lobby for vouchers so that you can get your hard-earned money back and send your kids to a school with a curriculum you agree with. It is your right to educate your kids as you see fit but a public school is going to reflect public values and blaming the Pink Pistols for that is ridiculous.

    Whether you like it or not, your kids will be exposed to the homosexual culture just like they are exposed to weapons and sex. I'm sure you, as a responsible parent, have taught your kids how to handle guns and sex in a mature and responsible manner... why not teach them how to handle homosexuality in a responsible manner? Then, heaven forbid, let your children/grandchildren decide if they think it is okay.

    My grandmother can't understand how I can be friends with "those lazy good for nothing niggers" and you know what? I'm glad I don't have the same values as my grandparents because being a bigot is always wrong whether you are referring to race, relegion, or sexual orientation. I can thank my parents not some diversity class in school for teaching me that. Change can be a good thing.

    The more "pink ink" that newspapers print, the better. That group of shooters can help fight stereotypes in a much more effective way than any straight white shooter ever could.
     
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    im surprised there isn't a Pink Pistols group in Austin. Austin is a very pro-gay city, especially being the state capitol.

    for the record i have absolutely NOTHING against gays. i grew up in the SF Bay Area and went to school and graduated from U.C. Berkeley. i don't subscribe to their lifestyle but i have nothing against them either.

    if there was a Pink Pistols group in Austin and they invited me to do business with their group, i see no reason why i shouldn't, unless they aren't able to pass a NICS check.

    and yes, gays are generally more politically active, even than us gun owners. to have them on the pro-2A side is actually good. it also breaks the stereotype of the far left that gun owners are nothing more than a bunch of rednecks, racists, etc.

    in fact i think if some idiot tried to 'gay-bash' a homosexual and that homosexual was CHL'd and armed and shot the BG in self-defense, i think it would actually bolster the reasons FOR CHL in states that don't allow it (thinking about California.....)
     
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    I agree with Marshall.........
     
  25. Marshall

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    Erik F,

    I agree 100% with 99% of what you said. I don't support any gay group, pro gun or not. I don't support an liberal group, pro gun or not. I don't support any gang bang groups, pro gun or not. Etc.


    Matt Payne,

    As for telling me to keep my bigoted remarks to myself, first of all I don't believe them to bigoted, I believe them to be anti-gay and, I'll speak as I wish, thank you. Is talking anti liberal bigoted? I believe there was thread here titled verbal terms causing personal offense about someone not liking being called a liberal. Well, about every reply to that thread was suggesting "suck it up and get over it", "if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen", and so on. I'll talk about my disdain for gays, fag's, whatever they're called, whenever the subject is brought up promoting them and their organizations. I have the right to do so just as 99% of the folks that took part in the "Liberal" thread had the right and spoke their mind.

    You assume way too much. I don't support any gay organizations because of many reason. Yes, I don't believe it's right, period. I don't believe in interracial marriage just as I don't believe men should be having sex with other men or marrying them. But as important, most all are liberals and don't share my views on 95% of what I believe in and stand for. I'm not going to support an organization based on one thing I agree with them on. I'm not going to sacrifice my morals to promote carrying a gun, I can promote doing that in 20 other and better ways. I'm not about to apologize for my words or actions and won't be made to feel I should because it may be the "the politically correct thing to do".

    If you don't like that, too bad.

    BTW, this is not anything personal toward you. It's about the message, not the messenger.
     
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