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Ill getting hammered again ?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by bg, May 26, 2005.

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  1. bg

    bg Member

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    When you find out, let me know..
  2. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

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    Well it all depends on how you look at it. If the boy governor uses the amendatory veto to strike the provisions that force the ISP to stop holding purchase records the legislature would have to revote on the bill to accept that change. This will kill it. There will be no closing of the non-existant gunshow loophole and we will have an anti gun action by a governor who has tried to run from his anti gun record to beat him about the head and shoulders with here in Southern Illinois during his re-election campaign next year. I doubt that this bill was ever meant to become law. It was just meant to force boy Rod to show his true colors.

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  3. Matthew748

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    The whole "gunshow loophole" that they prattle on about always gets me mad. Even if private party sales bypass the background check, there is still the 72 hour wait on hand guns and 24 hour wait on long guns to contend with. This fouls every deal I have ever found at a gun show. I'll find something I would like to buy, but the inconvenience and expense of being forced to drive hundreds of miles (I am talking round trip here) just to take position due to the waiting period causes me to pass every time.
     
  4. SmershAgent

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    Not to mention that both buyer and seller must have a valid FOID to do a private transfer. Anything that would prevent you from being issued one would also kill your background check. There's no "loophole" and there never was. It's just an attempt to create another layer of hassle and oversight for people who want to do lawful private commerce.

    As far as the amendatory veto goes, I'm not sure I'm entirely clear how it works. This is my understanding, and if anyone can corroborate or correct my impressions, I'd be most grateful:

    1) Rod vetoes the database destruction section

    2) The bill is returned to the GA with that provision removed

    3a) The GA must vote in favor of the revised bill by a simple majority and it returns to the governor to be signed

    3b) The GA can override the vetoed section by a 3/5 majority, in which case the original bill becomes law

    Am I missing something? I believe the original bill passed by a veto-proof margin in the Senate and came up only 2 votes short in the House. It's possible the 3/5 margin is doable, but I suspect Rod is going to be hard pressed to find half the members from both chamber who will support private party background checks on their own.
     
  5. Sungun09

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    Illinois Gun owners - Bill being resubmitted

    We need your help desperately.

    I spoke to my State Rep. today who told me the "Assault Weapons Ban" is being re-crafted for re-introduction in a slightly gelded version.

    The idea is to ban "assualt weapons" including the AR-15 and the AK-47, some pistols, the .50 cal etc. but it "preserves our rights" in other areas.

    Lose one - lose em all eventually
     
  6. SmershAgent

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    Who is your Representative?
     
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