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Illinois Concealed Carry Legislation

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by fanchisimo, May 2, 2013.

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  1. fanchisimo

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    That's not what came up. It was a video of a "useless machine".:mad:
     
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    Sorry, my apologies. I copied the wrong link. It has been fixed.
     
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    Gotta give that man credit for being so passionate about the issue and calling out the corrupt Democratic party of Illinois. 'May issue' basically means guns just for the rich and connected. Shall issue is the only way everyday Americans can actually stay arms. In fact, I don't know how 'shall issue' can even be considered Constitutional under the equal protection clause. Our rights are part of our negative liberty, that is, they cannot be restricted or otherwise be given multiple tiers of citizenship by preemptive laws that create 'haves' and 'have nots'. I wish that CA's and other states that are 'may issue' would be challenged all the way up to SCOTUS.
     
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    a "useless machine" actually describes Illinois politics as well as anything.
     
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    Hey don't associate the awesomeness and entertainment of the useless machine with Illinois politics. Did anybody else notice that when he said there's a countdown to conceal and carry, it almost sounded like that'd be a bad thing?
     
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    It could be a bad thing - if some FOID card holder screws up.

    42 days and counting!
     
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    I have always heard (don't know the stats, but I'm sure someone here has them) that legal CCW holders are statistically very unlikely to misuse their weapon so if that's true I wouldn't worry about a legal gun owner. It'll probably be a crook and the politicians will demand may issue is necessary for safety.
     
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    More lunacy from Cook County:

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...e-for-county-if-legislature-fails-to-act.html

    A $300 permit for a gun that costs $500? How about proposing a $10,000 driver's license and see how well that would sit?! May issue, not shall issue? How about hell no? Good lord, I hope the time frame runs out on these loonies. While the city and state continues to bleed, they keep diddling their thumbs.
     
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    dont be surprised, this is what NYC has so look for them to copy it
     
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    Point out to Sheriff Dimwit that here in Arizona we have totally unregulated concealed and open carry - and no unusual problems. In our "wild west" blood isn't running in the streets, as it is where he is. Arizona residents do not have to pay $300 for the right to excercise a Constitutional right.

    Maybe if his Department got serious about doing something about Cook County's crime (not gun) problem he wouldn't have to worry about carry permits.
     
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    He'd have to arrest the entire Chicago City Council, half of the Chicago Police Department, and probably ultimately, himself.
     
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