Illinois has too many guns! Blame Indiana's loose gun laws!

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  1. FlSwampRat

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    Ummmm.... Not so much, it seems.
    Thanks @P5 Guy For the link.
    This is how many guns were sold in each state in March: (Abbreviated list, see the whole list here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/gun-sales-reach-record-4-7-million-here-s-every-state-ranked/ar-BB1fjBfO?ocid=msedgdhp)

    State/Territory Total
    Illinois 1,427,917
    Kentucky 330,476
    Texas 222,409
    Indiana 206,884
    Florida 178,247

    There were almost 7 times the number of guns sold in Illinois than in Indiana. What about that story line of everyone going from Illinois to Indiana to buy their guns?
    Oh, and I did just have to leave Fla on the list. ;)
     
  2. PapaG

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    That story comes from Illinois' first black, openly gay, hypocritical, clueless mayor to whom truth is no more important than it is to Lester Holt, 60 Minutes or most of the media. Proven wrong time and again she blunders on. One of the main problems in Chicago is the head prosecutor Kim Foxx, also known as catch and release Foxx. The Gov recently signed into law a police weakening wreck of legislation promoted by the black caucus. Sad to say, I'm stuck here.
     
  3. Speedo66

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    Why let facts get in the way of a good diatribe?

    Easier to point fingers and blame other states when you don't want voters to realize you're doing a terrible job controlling crime.
     
  4. illinoisburt

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    I find the sales numbers interesting. Keeping in mind this was only sales for ONE MONTH during a time when most dealers shelves are bare. I wonder how much of the numbers are being influenced by people's perceived lack of police protection. If you ever want to drive gun sales, have politicians on TV droaning on about gun control while the evening news shows buildings burning and people being victimized by criminals freshly turned out from jail.
     
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    I'm a little disappointed. AR only had 34K sales, according to that list.
     
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  6. Speedo66

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    A certain amount may be due to population numbers, but I find it interesting that places where you expect hunting to be prevalent, numbers were small.

    I figure places like that, i.e., N & S Dakota, Wyoming, Nebraska, Maine, etc., they already got their guns.
     
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  7. PapaG

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    If it can be put in a large pocket and will shoot (assuming you can get $50/box ammo) it will sell in IL, and for way more than you'd expect.
     
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    I misinterpreted that on first reading, now I can't stop wondering if they sell more ARs in AK or AKs in AR... o_O
     
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    Yeah, I'm pretty bummed out about FL coming in at #5. We gotta try harder for April! LOL
     
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    Great point!
     
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  11. Bartojc

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    I've heard this line of reasoning time and time again without any data to back it up. With your posting it seems ad if that is why there never seems to be any data. The data to back up the claims does not exist, in fact it is quite the opposite. No surprise.

    -Jeff
     
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    I did my part for Montana.
     
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    I worked procurement in Alaska for a few years, can't tell you how many times looked at my address and thought I was in Arkansas.
     
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    I did my part for Illinois lol. Unfortunately I only got 1 in March, but at least I put forth a effort.
     
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    The numbers are only those that used NICS, too.
    Something like 35 States have unfettered FTF sales as well, that would have not gone through NICS.
    It would also be interesting to know how the POC States report their data to NICS.

    These numbers will be blurred by non-sales NICS checks (over cautious retailers, pawns, etc) This may balance the FTF numbers. Maybe. Perhaps.

    Still, some interesting data to chew upon.

    Actualy, the "Gunz is kummin from Indy-nanner" dates back to Emperor Daley, Jr's time, if memory serves.
     
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    Pretty much nailed that one on the head!
     
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    TX at #3, that's disappointing... Guess I'll have to head to the store. ;)
     
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  18. FlSwampRat

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    Well, I do know Fla is a POC state, we run all through FDLE, so there must be some reporting back and forth. Also, can't go by simply total number of br checks because pawns get br checked as well as sales, although there is a place on the br check form for sales or pawn redemption.
     
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    I just want to say, it's about time another State beside Florida is blamed for supplying their State with too many illegal guns :)

    Uh, oh... Maybe Governor for life Cuomo isn't reading this?... :)
     
  20. Ignition Override

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    I worked a trip with a guy who grew up near C., and said that his brother was an Asst. Police Chief in some part of Chicago. This was about eight years ago.

    This coworker told me that if it were now illegal to buy any guns - after naming IN or WI as a major part of the problem - then the supply of guns to the Criminals of Chicago would dry up in about twenty years or so.

    That is exactly what he told me, therefore I didn't try to refute it at all, and give him some sort of satisfaction. Luckily he didn't work any more trips with me. There would have been a silent wall over the throttle quadrant.
    We have read about the conformity of some Police Chiefs to the Mayors they work for.
     
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    We dont require NICS for LTC holders. + we can sell our property to whomever we choose.
     
  22. James Fonteneaux

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    As it should be.
     
  23. Bush Pilot

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    You bought a gun in Illinois? You must be a gang banger or at least from the Southside.
     
  24. Shak3s1977

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    I only got it due to Indiana's loose gun laws, well that's what they tell me at least lol.
     
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  25. redneck2

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    I worked at a LGS in northwest Indiana. We didn’t sell to Illinois residents unless it went through an Illinois FFL.
     
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