Discussion in 'Hunting' started by PapaG, Apr 6, 2022.
I’ve been posting ads for Contender carbine barrels in 32-40, 38-55, 357, 44. Wish me luck.
Yeah, I understand. While I understand the philosophy of handgun calibers for safety, the single shot thing is questionable.
No, but i have my eye on a couple that are.
Sticking only to firearms, years ago it was shotguns with slugs only. Muzzleloader and later handguns were added. Along the way a lot of emphasis was placed on how these were absolutely not modern high power rifles. It took incremental steps to allow rifles slug barrels and optical sights for shotguns. Had additional steps to allow inline muzzleloader and optical sights. Handguns were limited to revolvers and single-shots in only certain straight wall cartridges to keep out contenders in 30-30 or 40x in 7mag. Each bite at the rules to let in another more efficient gun has started with the argument that they really weren't significant because the comparisons were so close. Of course we have pretty much taken a huge leap (albeit in tiny steps) over 40 years that the last remaining arguments against regular centerfire rifles are looking kind of moot.
Right now the next step is taking those limited handgun rounds and putting them into something a bit larger and more stable while still arguing it's just a 'bigger handgun'. "Gee hey there Mr. Representative, ya know like shouldn't it be okay to put my long contender barrel onto something with a shoulder stock so it's not quite so hard to hold it steady? See it's not a scary rifle, just my old pistol with a little more length."
The process has been very much the same in many states. I cannot knock folks for wanting easier hunting tools and taking the initiative to lobby successfully for them. Not to worry people are already stalking the woods with AR pistols chambered in 450 bushmaster using a "sled" magazine cap to limit it to a single shot, so even if the recent proposal doesn't work out you have a fine option right there.
Changing barrels on a TC is not a mod., just a simple barrel switch. Plugging a repeater to make it a single shot is intriguing and I bet my crappy state would think the same as when I asked if I could use my model 24V Savage for turkey if I didn't carry any .222s. NO. But, rest assured, I will ask.
I asked if placing a wood block under the magazine follower to restrict capacity would be okay. They answered in the affirmative, and I made sure to be able to access that email reply when I hunted. Also printed it out and kept a copy in my backpack.
You really should put moving out of Illinois down as one your life goals. I did and have been enjoying freedom since 2010.
Wisconsin has pretty liberal regs when it comes to what calibers are legal for deer. Any caliber that is legal in a handgun, is also legal for use in rifles, and there is no mag restrictions. I have no recollection of them trying to prevent any type of handgun to be used, other than a minimum barrel length of 5.5".
Not everyone has the option to just pack up and move because of what's legal for hunting deer. Illinois has great opportunities for hunting deer, even with their restrictions on legal weapons. While folks do not always agree on what is really "safe", everyone in that area, if they stay legal, has the same restrictions. As I said before, with today's modern rifled shotgun barrels and sabots(and even some standard slugs), and optics, your effective range, accuracy and terminal performance of projectiles, is just as good as most accepted handgun calibers. The only way to increase it is to go with a high powered rifle cartridge and that is what the state is trying to avoid. I have a feeling that because of the many states that are now allowing "handgun' calibers in "shotgun only" areas, we will see development of new straight walled, high pressure calibers, that in a rifle platform, while conforming to the restrictions of handgun case size, will give folks the 300+ yard range they think they need. My son, for a while, had a .460 S&W in a TC Pro-Hunter carbine. While brutal to shoot, it had amazing accuracy at 200 yards with 300 gr bullets.
That's why I said - make it "life goal." You are directly funding those crooks running Illinois with your tax dollars.
I'm staying for the election.
My cuz is running for Governor!
ELECT DARREN BAILEY!!
BTW Darren Bailey has my vote!
Only tax dollars I contribute to Illinois are in the form of gas taxes when driving thru. Unfortunately, I know of very few states, where the government is not run amuck with crooks and liars. Politics is one of the few examples of where the "good" guys, generally finish last.
Not to our legislature dominated DNR.
I shoot contenders (pistols) and see barrels on Ebay often.
Once it is signed, I would contact the state to ask for policy clarity to see if plugging the mag tube similar to a shotgun would be acceptable. I'm sure a small diameter dowel rod would work
you the optimist.
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