Illinois SB1007 (magazine ban) has picked up a couple more RINO sponsors

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BTW: Where is the NRA on this? I have seen a lot of alerts from the ISRA but nothing from the NRA about this? Has the NRA just abandoned those of us in Illinois?

Fighting the enemy in their own backyard is probably much to difficult. Illinois has been doomed for quite some time now.
 
STOP depending on the NRA, this has to be done by us, here in Illinois.

You need to join illinoiscarry down in Springfield. I was at IGOLD, and hope to attend Wensday for the committee hearing.

SPREAD THE WORD!!


*Copied from hometown section of ar15.*



Gun Owners Going to Springfield!!

Dear Illinois Gun Owners,

As per our last alert, many of us plan to be in Springfield this Wednesday, May 23rd to lobby legislators to vote against SB1007 which is the Gun Magazine Ban and other anti-gun bills still in play for this session.

We will rendezvous just inside the Howlett Building (same bldg. as IGOLD meeting) in the Hall of Flags at 8:30 a.m. to organize our efforts and fill out our opposition/witness slips. We will proceed over to the Capitol in ample time to get seating for the 10:00 a.m. Executive Committee Hearing on SB1007. After the hearing we will lobby our legislators.

Mark Mountain, the gentleman who helped ignite the Brown/Pike County Resolution movement is lending his support and plans to attend. We expect to see several from the firearms manufacturing community there as well.

We need to be a visible support for those Illinois firearm manufacturers who want to keep their businesses in this state. The legislators need to see us in person especially at this critical time when legislative deadlines are fast approaching and the pressure is tremendous on them to compromise our Second Amendment rights.We realize this is very short notice but to those who are available we ask you to please be there to help in this very important effort.

Please pass this on to your gun owning friends and organizations.

Sincerely,
IllinoisCarry.com

p.s. If you have IGOLD shirts and buttons please feel free to wear them.

p.s.s. If the Committee decides to cancel or postpone the hearing in an effort to deter our efforts, we will STILL LOBBY KEY LEGISLATORS!!
 
Last Monday morning I faxed a letter to both offices of my rep, Krause. Then on Tuesday followed up with phone calls to both of her offices asking her to vote no on the bill then on Wednesday I called her Springfield office one more time and left a message asking her to call me back SINCE I LIVE IN HER DISTRICT AND SHE IS MY REP. It was like pulling teeth just getting her secretary to take my number. The call went something like this;

First I mentioned that I faxed a letter and her secretary said, “Oh, I’m sure she got it then.”
Me-Can I speak to her?
Secretary-Well she’s in session right now.
Me-I realize that, I meant can she call me back?
Secretary-She’s very busy -
Me-I’m very busy too and I’m taking time to call my representative.
Secretary-Well, I’ll give her the message but I can’t guarantee she’ll call, she’s very busy.
Me-Oh, she’s too busy to speak to her constituents?

I never did get a call back but I'll be calling her again and I urge any of you Illinois people to call her offices and express your extreme displeasure over her support of this useless, crap legislation just as we called Dave Sullivan on it. After all it affects us all.
I'm apalled and infuriated that some of these "people" and I use that term very loosely, will support legislation like this when they know damn well it won't prevent crime in any way, will only punish the law abiding and is simply a symbolic gesture to pander to "soccer mom's" who wouldn't know a magazine from a trigger group from a "thing that goes up". I just hope their are still enough downstate Democrats with enough sense left in their heads to hold off the will of the brainwashed idiot politicians up here.
The tree of Liberty desperately needs watering.
 
Gun control nation wide is not about party affiliation. It is clearly an urban versus rural issue. There are plenty of down state Democrats that are progun, and far too many Chicago area Republicans that are anti gun. The same holds true on the national scene.
 
Originally posted by jcb:
Gun control nation wide is not about party affiliation. It is clearly an urban versus rural issue. There are plenty of down state Democrats that are progun, and far too many Chicago area Republicans that are anti gun. The same holds true on the national scene.

In my opinion it is always an issue of rural and urban locales. This trend is national when you start to look at places like New York, where in the rural part of New York State is gun friendly and the urban part is very unfriendly to gun owners. From what I read it is pretty much the same in California. The majority of people live in larger urban areas where guns are not very prevalent so they have little experience with them.
 
I have another example that flies in the face of D vs. R on gun rights. My representative is a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment, and is a Democrat.

I emailed her last week about the magazine ban. She sent me a letter back via snail mail and told me she will vote against it, and any other anti-gun bills the vermin put forth. Vermin was my line, of course.

The NRA rated her an A+ during the last election, and I took a chance and voted for the first Illinois Democrat I've ever voted for. Looks like it paid off.

I plan of telling every shooter I know about her strong pro-2nd stance so she can be voted in again next election. Always assuming, that she stays the course.
 
All of the "R" supporters are suburban collar county RINO's.

Their entire constituency consists of Chicago and Cook County refugees that got fed up with Chicago taxes, crime and corruption and moved to Naperville or West Aurora or Wheaton.

Once they got there the first thing they all want to do, is make it as much like Chicago as they can. "Ahh, let's move to the subuirbs and out of the crowded, noisy and dangerous city. But first build me a few strip malls, 2 or 3 Starbucks, Oh and stop that farmer from carrying a shotgun in his own cornfield, he scares me."

Many of the opponents are downstate Dem's in farm and hunting country.

That being said, at the Federal level HB1022 is still gathering Dem co-sponsors every day.

That's probably where the gun grabber reputation comes from. That and the many gun control statements from folks like Schumer, Pelosi, Boxer, Kennedy, Kerry, Edwards, Kucinich, Clinton, Obama and the other senior Dems that are proud to appear on the Brady Campaign website and link to their MySpace page as a friend.
 
And the DINO's downsouth are pretty much Republicans who feel that the government should help the farmers out more as the farmers represent a large part of their constituents.

It really is a case of rural versus urban.
 
Oh, it's got a BIG loophole. The only thing it will do in effect is keep gun shops from selling standard mags.

It will be forever un-enforecable against a owner of a 'pre-ban' mag.

Unless they change the law. Later on.

Which they will. If this garbage becomes law.


(My take on DINO in farm country Illinois; When FDR was in office, their family got government help via farm subsidy. THAT is how otherwise conservative folks became fricken' corn cob pipe smoking dems!!!)
 
Here is a question that may have been answered prior and I did not see....

If this does pass into law and a resident of Ill has some high cap mags, that would be grandfathered, how does one prove that they were in ones possession prior to the date of the law? The quick response would be to show your reciepts. What if the person(s) did not retain these reciepts? Would the said person need to go to an attorney to draft, whitness, and notary a letter the would stipulate that they whitnessed these mags in said persons possession prior to the law change?

This seems very hard to police... However, the law could make it a big issue, even for grandfathered mags.
 
Yes, it has a grandpa clause which is the reason why this will probably pass. Yes, it will lead to a lot of problems for law enforcement, prosecutors, and gun owners. This is a stupid law. But you need to keep in mind that it is going to change during the next session. They have no intentions of leaving the law written as it is, because they know that it does nothing. This is death by a thousand cuts. What number is this cut?
 
So, what does "Do Pass / Short Debate Executive Committee; 007-004-000/ Placed on Calendar 2nd Reading - Short Debate" mean? Nothing good, I'm sure.

And what is Mike Bost:
Fiscal Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
5/23/2007 House State Mandates Fiscal Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
5/23/2007 House Balanced Budget Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
5/23/2007 House Correctional Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
5/23/2007 House Home Rule Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
5/23/2007 House Housing Affordability Impact Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
5/23/2007 House Judicial Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
5/23/2007 House Land Conveyance Appraisal Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
5/23/2007 House Pension Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
5/23/2007 House State Debt Impact Note Requested by Rep. Mike Bost
Soto

doing? Delaying action? Good for him if that's what it is.
 
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I guess they are more concerned with a magazine ban than sexual exploitation of children. :rolleyes:

Next time these people are up for election ask them why they hijacked a bill that would have helped children? Use it against them.

Sadly when you ask most people if they are for a AWB mag restriction they may say yes. But when you ask the question "Why did you hijack a bill that would have made it harder for sexual predators to prey on our children and use it for some political purpose?"

This really pisses me off.
 
I talked to my rep today. Yeah I ws suprised when he called me back. He said he has no intentions of vooting for 1007. My senator also voted NO both are Rs. People who vote the libritarian and or green party are just keeping Blago and Daley in office. I know the argument it has to start somewhere so we can get third party canidates. Yes i understand that but Ross gave us 8 years of Clinton. When you have the heavily social service dependent urban areas voting str8 party lines to keep their social services comming and a bunch of liberal do gooders voting their guilt. there has to be a concerted effort to vote the social enginering crats out of office. BTW on a happy note the FEDS are digging into Blagos campaign funds:)

len
 
http://www.isra.org/ said:
Today SB1007 , the Kotowski magazine ban, passed out of the Executive Committee with 7 yeas, 4 nays, and 2 not voting. This can be looked at as a 7-6 margin, which is a very close vote in this Committee. We could see this bill on the House Floor as soon as Friday.

Please call your state representatives as soon as possible either at their Springfield office or their local District office and ask them to vote against SB1007.

Please forward this to every Internet blog and bulletin board that you belong to.
 
(e) Sentence. A person who knowingly manufactures,
delivers, sells, purchases, or possesses or causes to be
manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed in
violation of this Section a large capacity ammunition feeding
device commits a Class A misdemeanor for a first violation; a
Class 4 felony for a second violation; and a Class 3 felony for
a third or subsequent violation or for possession or delivery
of more than one of these devices at the same time.

Nice to know that possession of 2 "unregistered large caps" gets you a bigger penalty than a guy who flashes a classroom. Thank you Dan Kotowski for keeping our streets safe from serial hicap possessors; thank you for dealing with the REAL problems in Illinois today. :cuss:
 
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