Discussion in 'Long Gun Accessories and Optics' started by Taylor Self, Jul 8, 2020.
On a rifle for target shooting I’d probably opt for better glass at the cost of no illumination. For a hunting rifle used for crepuscular animals I’d be more inclined to have an IR scope. IR is also helpful when shooting black or very dark animals in bright light.
I do like IR a lot, if I were richer I’d own more than two IR scopes.
Just beware, MANY scopes with an illuminated reticle are not daylight bright.
Illuminated scopes have a really short battery life as it is and the green is much worse in the battery from what i’ve seen.
Agree, and the tradeoff can also be weight. It's not that illuminated reticles or red dots necessarily weigh a ton, but take a Leupold VX5-HD for example. It's no lightweight. You can get good glass on a Swarovski Z3 without the dot and without the additional pound of weight.
This pretty much covers my thoughts.
I have 2 illuminated scopes and 2 non-illuminated. Illumination is handy in a few circumstances, so if a scope has it its a bonus but its not something I'm going to eliminate a scope over. With deer hunting you might have some utility at the beginning and end of the hunting day.
Not the decent ones.
Right. Two of mine take standard AA or AAA batteries and makes spares easy to have around. Not to mention unlike a red-dot if the batteries die you still have an aimpoint to use.
Just as a GENERAL rule of thumb, for anything 10X and under, I'd choose covered turrets. I usually have these sorts of scopes on rifles that I'll be shooting at steel with or some sort of faster activity. For shooting at small stuff beyond 300 yards or so, I like to dial, so I usually go exposed.
Are you looking for something "tactical?" For the money, the offerings from Vortex are hard to beat for whatever you are looking for. I'll admit that it's been a long time since I've had to buy a scope and the last time I bought one, the PSTs were the best bang for the buck...or those scopes in that caliber.
On my "stalking" rifles, I'm not a real fan of exposed turrets. Based on the OPs posts, I'd "guestimate" this rig will see more use against steel than fur, so I'd go with exposed turrets. I
On illumination, I've got 4 or 5 scopes with, the majority without. Honestly I've never lost an animal due to an inability to see the crosshairs. Most of the animals I have shot with illumination have been muskrats and beavers at dusk/twilight against a pond bank.
I'd 2nd the recommendation for Vortex, something in the PST line.
That being said, though, its not a deal breaker for me especially if the scope has a reticle that makes it easy to hold for elevation and windage instead of dialing. My Burris Fullfield E1 I recently bought fits that bill, capped turrets but a nice MOA based reticle. It is on my bolt 223, which will mainly be used for coyote so probably won't have time to dial anyway.
I personally don’t see a need in it. I had been wanting a Trijicon Accupoint for hunting but opted for the Trijicon Huron which is non illuminated and I am happy with my decision. Unless you are hunting after dark ,then that’s a different story.
I do a fair amount of hunting after dark and disagree. I find IR’s to be most useful early and late in the day. When hunting at night I have another light source(predator light) and don’t need IR as much.
In all fairness, not all of them are intended to be. The ads for the ones in the 1970s and 1980s were slanted toward hunters, extolling the virtues of the illuminated reticles in the early morning and late evening, when it was too dark to see a normal reticle. There was no claim that the illumination was of any value in normal daylight.
If you're buying a *hunting* scope, it may have been made like that. I'd want a "tactical" scope to be bright even at noon, but it's one of those things I'd want to check before laying down my money.
I have likely used them more in 3gun matches than in the field using them as red dots on up close stages.
The last couple of optics I bought have the feature, despite not being a part of my purchase decision.
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