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I'm ashamed to stoop so low as to ask this question.

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Jacob L Freeman, Dec 23, 2012.

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  1. HighExpert

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    Agreed. Unless they change the law. The database is something they want badly. Dealers have the 4473 forms for 20 years, but you need a gun serial number in order to even begin to look for who bought it.. No fishing allowed. When I turned in my FFL and sent my 4473s to D.C. I redacted everything on them and never heard a word about it Hopefully more dealers will do the same. It says you have to keep the form not you have to keep the legible form.
     
  2. AlexanderA

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    It's a very good bet that there won't be a nationwide AWB, and the panic will subside. Prices and availability will be much better in 6-9 months.
     
  3. Skylerbone

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    There was a recent thread involving a member who purchased a converted (to semi) machine gun and had it transferred to his local FFL. When he walked in to fill out his 4473 he was met by BATFE agents who held up the transfer and wanted more info on previous purchases. Those were done through a different FFL who had retired and turned in his paperwork for proper "disposal". Appears government agencies refuse to be restrained by the laws they swore to uphold.
     
  4. MagnumWill

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    +1. You're the man, hopefully every one else thinks the same :thumbsup:
     
  5. Bill_Rights

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    I don't know what's being talked about when someone said
    This sounds like civil disobedience to me. Non-violent resistance. Obeying the law while preventing the information transmitted by doing so from being used for harmful purposes. Something(s) like that.... I am not sure why this came up, but I like it...
     
  6. Ignition Override

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    nathan: Quite true.

    Even if the increasing costs of Obamacare itself aren't soon felt by individual, regular citizens, many employers' reduction of workers' hours/paychecks to avoid the much higher costs of Obamacare Will be noticed. There will be lots of ARs, VZ-58s, AKs for sale.
    Maybe 7.62x39 and .223 ammo will follow suit. Prvi .303?:scrutiny:

    In February the US Congress fight over the monstrously high debt ceiling will make the arguments in December seem more like a friendly squabble-
    unless one side just mostly rolls over like our fat, old Himalayan cat on the rug.

    It would surprise me if Obama wants to waste much political capital on gun control in Congress (he delegated much of it to Biden), with this major battle over govt. spending/borrowing. But they also need gun control on tv, partly to distract us.
     
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  7. c1ogden

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    I just ordered 2 Rock Rivers from

    http://www.kristasfirearms.com/

    I've dealt with her before and she took very good care of me. Her prices are lower than Rock River MSRP on many items. The 2 rifles I just ordered, both with stainless barrels, were $1080 and $1,125 with shipping included!
     
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