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I'm looking for a cheap .22

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by KevinAbbeyTech, Mar 1, 2009.

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  1. KevinAbbeyTech

    KevinAbbeyTech Member

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    I need a cheap .22 for a hiking trip I will be going on in the desert.
    I will be using this (or hopefully not using this) for defense in the event of a snake confrontation that cannot be resolved through peaceful negotiation.

    I will be loading it with shot, but would like it to be accurate none the less.
    I will be carrying no other weapon besides this, and would like to be able to shoot rabbits and ground squirrels if something goes wrong.

    Weight is also a concern, as I will be hiking very long distances.

    I am on a tight budget for this gun, and would like to keep the price below $175-$200 if at all possible.

    Any suggestions?
     
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  3. David E

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    It seems that you've not really thought this thru.

    If you see the snake in time, go around it. If you see it too late, a gun won't help.

    As a result, shotshell ability is moot.

    As far as bagging small game or defense on the trail, you can include a semi-auto in your considerations.

    A used Ruger Mk I would be a good choice. Even new, a Ruger semi-auto wouldn't exceed your $200 limit by too much.

    .http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123762099
     
  4. 22-rimfire

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    The only revolver I would want that sells used in that price range is an H&R double action revolver in 22LR.

    Unfortunately, most of the revolvers that I like in 22 cost well above $200. I don't think you will be able to be too picky, but the Heritage Rough Rider is probably a reasonable inexpensive revolver new for your purposes.

    Do you put such strict $ limits on your other hiking supplies? The best light weight 22 revolver is the little Smith & Wesson air weight in 22 with a 3" barrel. They will run you more.
     
  5. KevinAbbeyTech

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    I will be hiking on narrow trails, many with long drop offs, and I would rather shoot a snake than risk falling.

    I have actually spent quite a while thinking about this.
     
  6. David E

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    If it's that serious a concern, then don't skimp on a piece of vital gear.

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    I like my 9 shot Taurus M94 .22LR 4" SB A/S (that I paid a little less than $300 for) as much or better than my Smith .22LR Model 63 that I paid a little more than $600 for.

    YMMV

    Les
     
  8. KevinAbbeyTech

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    Yes.

    I will be hiking very bare bones.
    I had even considered going gunless but decided against it because of the risk of getting lost.
     
  9. KevinAbbeyTech

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    I could just use my Grandfathers old ruger 6 shot 22lr, but I don't want to risk losing it or having it stolen as I will be traveling a long way from home for this trip.
     
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    What's your time frame? A week? Couple of days?

    I was going to suggest a Ruger Bearcat, but never mind. I got mine for less than $150, but they're going for over $350 on gunbroker! :what:

    I also suggest the Ruger MarkI/MarkII. Even if you need to use bird shot, you can pull the charging handle after every shot. That will also give you 9 shots for the MarkI and 10 shots for the MarkII.
     
  11. David E

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    I don't see how the gun would be stolen if you keep it on you. Those that would steal it would need to be dealt with accordingly, which would be, for me anyway, the main reason I'd carry a gun in the first place.

    If snakes are the primary concern, then a 5-shot .38 snubby with shotshells might be in order. Have 3-4 other chambers loaded with a defense round. Then it would suffice for trail defense against people, animals, etc.

    The downside is, the accuracy is hard to squeeze out of it for bagging small game for the pot.

    The Walther P-22 is small, lightweight, acccurate and in a pinch, could do light duty as a defense gun. Mine likes Stingers, which is a bonus.

    It costs more than $200, but buying a cheap crap gun that won't do what I brought to gun TO do is only wasting money.

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    I think your best chance will be the Heritage single action revolver. That is to say, best chance of finding one for the price range you are looking at.

    A used Taurus 94 ,or a used Charter Arms pathfinder might come close to that price range, and they are not bad guns.
     
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    +1 for H&R (Harrington & Richardson). You may be able to find one in your price range, they are pretty cheap and will do what you want them to do.
     
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    I just shot my taurus M94 for the first time today, Picked it up used for $230 a couple of weeks ago. I really enjoyed shooting it and it was very accurate. I highly recommend it and it sounds like it would suit your needs perfectly
     
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    Have you ever tried .22 shotshell on a good sized rattlesnake? Personally that isn't something I want to be close enough to try. This is a minimum for me:

     
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    Agreed with some of the above posters. .22 shotshell out of a pistol would be... well, I wont say useless... but it's not by any means the best tool for the job. To me, it seems like a .38 or .357 would make quite a bit more sense, not only for snakes but for any other dangerous critters as well. For really optimal carry under the conditions you describe, perhaps a derringer would be in order.

    If you really insist on using only a .22 with only shotshell ammunition, then please for your own safety do some testing first with the weapon and ammunition you bring so you can see what it's really capable of.
     
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    A 22 SHOT in ANY form(revolver, semi, rifle) is ineffective at distances more than about 10 ft,(and yes, I know there has to be an exception) especially on anything larger than a chipmunk or garter snake..
     
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    Avoid the snakes, walk around them, and the spots they frequent. If one crosses the trail slow down and let it.

    Get a good .22lr for fun shooting and cheap practice. I have and like my Taurus 94, and k frame smiths.
    They are worth the money.
     
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    I find an 85 caliber rock to be a cheap and effective weapon against snakes. If you miss they usually leave.
     
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    These rifles are amazingly fun. I've loaded them with shot for rats and had no problem. I recommend something other than shot for, well, everything.
    Shot kind of stinks. I've used it a lot, but to each their own.

    or you could go to walmart and buy a savage bolt .22 or semiauto that will work and well, and accurately, for $115 plus tax.






    by the way, I've done a lot of hiking in the desert, I've never had a problem with anything but other people standing in the way of my view.

    I did catch a rattlesnake one time, but that was just me harassing the wildlife.
     
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    As at least one poster has mentioned, 22 shot (bird shot, rat shot etc) is pretty ineffective from even a 22 rifle let alone a 22 handgun. You might seriously think about a 38spl (or 357 mag) and you probably can find one in the price range you speak. It may take some luck and looking, but they are out there and bird shot from a 38 is much more effective than a 22LR shot. Learn to shoot the 22 and you won't need shot shells. I would venture to say that I could shoot my foot inside a shoe at 6 feet and probably not injure my foot with a 22 shot shell even though I don't want to test my theory.

    I think your biggest dangers are from people, wild dogs, and of course bears. Mountain lions are a concern in some areas. Dangers from snakes are predictable and avoidable, but I understand why some people want to carry a gun in snake country. The biggest danger in general is the slip-fall hazard and does not involve wild creatures.
     
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    When I backpack I carry a .357. Good for snakes and the primates that inhabit North America.

    If you insist on carrying a .22, I would suggest that you forget the "snake shot". Load it with you favorite "high pressure" cartridge. If you need to shoot a snake, shoot it. (aim low)

    With your price parameters you are pretty much stuck buying a used Ruger or Buckmark rather than a revolver. (if you want a quality firearm, that is)

    I own both and while either is quite good, my preference is the Browning. (If you go that route, locktite the screws on top)

    Do not skimp on the holster. Get a good, full coverage holster. I like the Galco Dual Sportsman since you can wear it crossdraw or strongside. On a long hike a gun can get tiresome in one place. This is not a new idea and others make good versatile holsters too.

    Also, the most important item for carrying a firearm comfortably is the belt. Uncle Mike's reinforced instructor belt is a cheap, well made product.

    Have fun
     
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    Get a used Ruger MK II. Don't be worried about the snakes, like others have said they can be avoided. Buy it for plinking out in the desert.
     
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    Cruise Gunbroker for an H&R revolver. You can get a 9 round cylinder and double/single action for $100. I have a few and they're solid, dependable, accurate guns. .22 semi-autos can be finicky at times. At the range, that's not an issue, but in the field, it can be a major one. Aguila Supermaximums pack a decent punch. They penetrate a bit more than Velocitors out of handgun-length barrels. I tested on 2X4s.

    If you want a pure shotshell dedicated handgun, some old H&R Young America .22 revolvers had smooth bore barrels.

    This one will very probably go cheaply, is C&R and will last forever:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123681688
     
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