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I'm not a real Glock fan, but...

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by BHP FAN, Jan 25, 2013.

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  1. BHP FAN

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    Very nice! Wish I had that guy as a cop in my town!
     
  3. 1911 guy

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    Funny yet on message.
     
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    Damn I LOVE that ad!

    And I'm kinda tickled by that dandy little gun safe under the bed as well.
     
  5. BHP FAN

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    me too! I might have to get one of those!
     
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    Looks like a gunvault. I have the multi duluxe version. It's a nice safe for access control. Has its limitations, but so do all safes.

    Really like this ad. Also know that it probably didn't take Glock long to find a gun guy with a creeper beard ;)
     
  7. BHP FAN

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    is that safe what they call ''biometric''?
     
  8. Skribs

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    I don't think that's the biometric version. I wouldn't trust a biometric safe (I'd be afraid of a false negative). It has four buttons, and you can press one or multiple buttons at a time for the combination. Essentially one button for each finger on one hand (sans thumb). So your combination could be 1-2-3-4 or it could be 12-34-14-23, or even 1234-1234-1234. The advantage is that unlike a numpad or a dial, you can easily access it in the dark or without looking.

    http://www.gunvault.com/

    A thief who knows what he's doing can break into the safe. If it's not bolted down it can easily be stolen. The top can be ripped off, exposing the controls. With a bit of determination and some power tools you can break into it. Anyone with a round lockpicker can pick the mechanical key back-up. However, your average thief will probably be deterred from stealing your guns (especially if it is bolted or at least cabled down), and if someone breaks in during the night they will most likely not access your guns quickly...but you could. (Granted, they can grab your kitchen knife and stab you in your sleep, but they can't get your guns).
     
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    It's amusing, but probably not the most believable example of a home invasion.... ;)

    I'd recommend a safe that has an all-mechanical push-button lock for quick access instead, such as the following:

    http://www.fas1safe.com/
    https://www.ftknox.com/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=59
    http://www.vlineind.com/Products.php?category_id=1

    All of these are equipped with a Simplex lock, which is extremely reliable, requires no batteries (which can fail) or backup keys, and is just as quick to unlock. On top of that, these safes are far more sturdy than GunVaults, for what it's worth.
     
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    Mine is a simple key lock.
     
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    Those work fine, too, as long as you can keep the key both handy and secure at the same time. Some folks wear the key around the neck, for example.

    The only type of quick-access lock that does NOT make sense to me is the highly popular electronic type (push-button or biometric), since they're not reliable enough to be the sole means of access, and require you to keep a backup key handy (and secure). If you have to do the latter anyway and do not mind, then why not skip the expensive electronics altogether and use a simple key lock? Those who really want a push-button safe and don't mind paying for the convenience (and won't forget the combination while under stress) should go for the Simplex-based ones.

    The foregoing is just my opinion, although it is based on the pragmatic reasons I just described. Obviously electronic safes work fine for many people despite my misgivings, but I for one feel better using something that makes more sense and is more reliable.
     
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    Good ad. I liked the use of the safe in the scenario, too. Well done.
     
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    That was my wife six years ago. The only difference is she used a model 23 and the guy turned and ran.
     
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    A very PC ad, but it makes the point, to a point. The safe is unnecessary if she lives alone and is not at risk of having the gun be discovered by a child or prohibited person. Some will beg to differ, I know, but to me it unnecessarily adds a layer of complexity and a time delay to her ability to respond. The depiction of the robber/rapist fainting when he sees the muzzle of a gun pointed at him is unrealistic and idealistic; it implies that just having the gun--even unloaded, one could think--will deter the intruder. A better but less PC version would have the guy rush her and getting a triple tap to the chest and head.

    There's another Glock ad that's similarly weakened in its attempt to be PC. A guy in a mask enters a diner with a shotgun and demands everyone comply with his attempt to rob them, then stumbles, at which point everyone in the place, badges now in evidence, draws on him. Obviously he surrenders at once--as in the girl at home ad, nobody fires. Then, in case viewers miss the badges, the camera pulls back and pans to reveal a banner posted in the diner--a banner welcoming patrons to a LEO convention in town. That's good to a point as well, but why the LEO convention? Why not simply present all the diner patron as CCW holders exercising their rights? OK, it's trying to make the point about Glocks being popular among LE agencies, but still, it's an opportunity missed.

    Good ads, but Glock shies away from depicting actually firing a pistol in SD in one and implies that only LEOs should have guns in the other. In both cases, the message is weakened.
     
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    Would have been better if she had the gun on her when she walked up to the door the first time, but I'm sure Gunvault paid a few bucks for the exposure.

    Would have been quite different if he just busted in without knocking. A lot of good that Glock would have done locked in the bedroom.

    While I do have a home defense gun in my quick access safe in my bedroom, I also always at least pocket carry around the house. Oh yea, Glock doesn't have a pocket size gun! :)
     
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    Unlikely to happen like that but it does make the point and the girl is good to watch for 2 minutes ;)
     
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    My wife watched and said, "If it was here it would have been a bloody mess".

    She thinks the minute he breaks down the door she has the right to protect her castle.

    I can't say she is wrong.
     
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    FAS1, maybe, except the only way I knew it was a GV safe is because I have one. I think it was a PC bit.

    Manco, you're right that a push-button safe might be a better option, but I don't consider it likely that the electronic lock on my safe will fail. I would not want to fumble around with keys or a dial in the middle of the night.
     
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    Two things missing on her strategy: a deadbolt lock on the door, and her yelling to him before he enters that, if he does, he will be shot.
    Still, an easy video on the eyes.. can't put my finger on why I had to watch it twice. :D

    And R. Lee Ermey as an EMT? Now that's funny!
     
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    I'd make a joke about the beautiful curves...of the gun...but it's a Glock so that joke won't work.

    Some people believe this is the best bet, others do not. If you call out that you are armed, the BG knows where you are and can prepare for you being armed. So it might scare him off, it might give him tactical knowledge. I wouldn't call the way they did this an error.
     
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    It is not as PC as you guys think - its just more subtle. You don't see her fire the gun, but the guy is strapped down on a stretcher and the Gunny is a paramedic. I don't think the guy survived this break in. You just have to pay attention to notice it. :neener:
     
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    I agree Mooner, They did not show the graphics but that dude would be a dead guy 9 times out of ten and completely justifiable.
     
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    I just assumed they were treating him because he passed out.
     
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    It would have been better if they showed the Coroner's car instead of the EMT's.
     
  25. allaroundhunter

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    That was not a biometric safe, though GunVault does make that MiniVault in a biometric configuration. That was their standard model.

    I use a Gunvault MicroVault and it is great.

    I wonder if my Gen2 G19 will scare a burglar into unconsciousness also? :neener:
     
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