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I'm not a real Glock fan, but...

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by BHP FAN, Jan 25, 2013.

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  1. allaroundhunter

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    Deadbolt? Yes, she needed one.

    Yelling to tell him that he is going to get shot? Not, IMO.

    The message to him not to come in should have been clear by her not opening the door to check who was there (a very good move). If the robber had been armed, her yelling at him telling him that he was going to get shot could lead to him firing through the door first.

    Sit back, call 911, and if the BG comes in.... stop the threat. No more words are needed.
     
  2. Skribs

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    AAH, good point. Calling 911 first would have been a good idea.
     
  3. hq

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    Sorry, no, that's a new Gen4 feature that's not available for earlier models. ;)
     
  4. allaroundhunter

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    Dang.... I wonder how much Glock's perfection gunsmiths will charge me to add that feature?.... :uhoh:
     
  5. GAMALOT

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    I have to kick this in and ask, Exactly when did we all become so helpless that we need to rely upon the 911 emergency services to come and bail us out because we had a knock on our door?

    I think far too many of us are willing to rely upon the police to do the jobs we are all responsible for ourselves. Calling 911 from where I live would the equivalent of a fart in the wind. Calling 911 and saying I had a knock on the door and no one was there would likely elicit a rather rude response from the 911 operator.

    Those of you who feel there should be a cop at every corner to respond to every situation have no business having guns and no right to complain about outrageous taxes and out of control government spending. I suppose only those who live in the country will understand this but I call 911 after I finish doing my job.
     
  6. Skribs

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    "Someone is trying to break into my house" at the point where he starts adamantly banging on the door and jiggling the handle trying to get in.

    Calling 911 has several benefits...
    1) Helps establish yourself as the victim who is defending him/herself.
    2) Brings the calvalry, because while you have the right to defend yourself, it's a lot easier if there are a lot more guns on your side.
     
  7. GAMALOT

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    She had about 2 seconds from the door handle jiggling to the door flying open. I guess if you live where there is a Calvary to come it might be a viable remedy. Out here where I am the cop is probably 30-45 minutes away if both of them are on duty that night.
     
  8. allaroundhunter

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    The first one to call the cops is considered the victim 99% of the time by first responders.

    Also, it wasn't the knock on the door that would get me to call 911, it was the fact that after the knock there was no answer and then it happened again. That usually means that a person is trying to get you to open the door without seeing them - they are there to cause trouble.

    It doesn't hurt to call the police. Exactly why do you think that calling them is asking to get "bailed out"? That is not my intentions when calling the police. I would like them to show up before anything goes bad, but they are not there to bail me out. I am confident that I can take care of myself better than a police officer can.

    However, I would love for them to arrive before I have to engage an assailant because it would save me a lot of money in legal fees...

    And what exactly is the harm of calling them to get them on their way? If it turns out to be nothing, you will still be on the line with them and you can apologize and explain the situation. If you have to shoot, then at least law enforcement is already on their way.

    I understand that when seconds count the police are only minutes away...but some people actually use that as a reason not to call the police? That is missing the point of the statement.
     
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    I will agree that sometimes it just isn't possible to get to 911 before you can defend yourself (IMO, smart phones are actually a part of the problem here, it would be a lot easier on an older phone...or if we went to the british system of 999), but if you can, you should.
     
  10. GAMALOT

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    I guess we see things differently and like I said, those who live in rural areas will better understand my point. I don't want the cops coming unless it is absolutely necessary. With so few on duty in such a big area I don't want one flying to my aid unless I am positive I need him. I get late night knocks on my door all the time out here from folks who hit deer or had and accident and I answer the door with protection every time. Cell phones are useless so it comes with the territory.
     
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    But there's a difference between someone who knocks on your door and is in plain view, vs. someone who acts suspicious and gets angry about being denied access to your domain.
     
  12. GAMALOT

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    You need to see some of the characters I get who just walked a mile or more in lousy weather and after an accident that has them bloody.

    Your point is well taken but I have to go with what works for me out here. There has been more than a few times when I did not want to even open the door after seeing what/who was knocking.
     
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    cool commercial, not a huge glock fan myself...but after seeing gunny at the end of that video a 1911 would have been even cooler.
     
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    Hysterical!
     
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    Gamalot, this girl's apartment didn't look like it was in a rural area with two cops in a 500-square mile county. Most of us were actually commenting on the scenario given, not on any possible scenario.
     
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    after the first knock and nobody there, gun and a phone should have come out. after the second knock and nobody there, a call to 911. Jiggling of the lock......911 on the phone and gun raised = perfect response. Door open and intruder NOT turning tail or immediately dropping to the ground = ______________ (insert your local/state laws about defense in the home.
     
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    This would be much better because it shows both the bad guys and the good guys what could happen. It should also be paired with a video showing what could happen (e.g. rape, murder, both) if the woman didn't have a gun. The actual video is just a silly cartoon that trivializes a potentially deadly scenario. I realize that it's an ad, but it does go a bit far in PCness.

    Deadbolted doors are easy to kick in unless the frame is reinforced.
     
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    Should put 2 in the chest as soon as he busted through. A little unPC, but now I'm gonna be stuck paying his hospital bill and hotel stay. That being said, anyone that carries for protection needs to be mentally prepared for deadly force, I don't think she was quite there mentally.....
     
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    Good times!
     
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    Thought for sure seeing him waking up it was going to be a copy of the Pulp Fiction scene with Zed in the basement. That would be a commercial.
     
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