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I'm prejudiced---I don't like Glocks

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by polekitty, Feb 22, 2009.

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  1. polekitty

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    Yes, I have to admit it, I just don't like Glocks. They are well made and extremely reliable. I just can't get used to the way they look. But I guess the one thing to which I really most object is the lack of a safety. That little thingie in the trigger is not a safety---it does not prevent the trigger being "accidentally" pulled. Of course, revolvers also don't have safeties, but they have much heavier trigger pulls than a Glock. Are Glocks available with a "New York" trigger, like some other autos? HK (as it comes standard) has a really beastly heavy trigger pull. But Glock has a really light pull, doesn't take much of a touch to "accidentally" pull off a shot. All of which really gets me to why I'm starting this thread. There is an "after market" safety available for the Glock. It's a gunsmith job to install it, it goes on the slide. It's a thumb type safety lever that works like the safeties on many other autos. It's a gunsmith job to install it. I wonder if any of you guys have seen one? I won't attempt to argue with those of you who say all you have to do is "be careful." But, let's face it, no one plans to have an "accident"--accidents are things that happen no matter how professional and careful you are.
     
  2. W.E.G.

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    The polished gun with all the levers and swoopy things that go up is the gun you show your friends.

    The Glock is the gun you show your enemy.

    That is all.
     
  3. ljnowell

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    Its no sweat brother, they arent for everybody. There is no one gun for all, and I thank god for that. If everyone liked the exact same thing then they would only make that one thing and guns would be pretty damned boring!

    So, basically, from a Glock Owners perspective, THANK YOU for not liking the glocks, you are doing your part to keep the gun market diverse and interesting.
     
  4. heron

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    As I understand it, it's very easy to replace a spring in the Glock and give it a heavier trigger pull.

    Really, though, it's been said before (in the text of firearms owner's manuals, among other places) -- don't depend on mechanical safety devices. Learn proper trigger discipline first.
     
  5. polekitty

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    "Touche"--or something like that!

    Yup! That "black thing is the thing you show your enemies." Can't argue with that! No, I've been"around guns" longer than most of you have even been alive--I've "carried" for years, again longer than many of you have been alive. And, I'm still just a little nervous, well, maybe better said that I'm very aware I'm carrying a sidearm. And yes, I do prefer a "1911 style" for carry, but it's not the only variety I carry. I have others, revolvers, and several 9's that definitely are NOT 1911 "style." But, I have to admit I do like a safety. I just like a "thingie" that guarantees the trigger will not be pulled by anything other than my trigger finger, accidentally or otherwise. And, apologies to all Glock fans. It is a very good gun.
     
  6. jdc1244

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    These threads never end up good and usually end up locked.

    Although I also don’t like Glocks the OP should have just said that and left it at that. To try to make some type of objective argument is pointless – it’s all subjective.

    I’ve never owned a Glock nor will I ever; I therefore can not pass objective judgement on Glocks. I find them unattractive and their assets are useless to me.

    As noted: buy what you like and take care with all firearms regardless of the safety configuration.
     
  7. shootistpd27

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    A safety doesnt work unless you use it. It takes no more effort to flip on the safety than it does to ensure that you dont pull the trigger. Too many people put false faith in a safety and that is what gets people killed. So many people have been killed by someone saying after they pulled the trigger "I thought the safety was on". At least with a glock it is known that they dont have a safety therefore they know not to pull the trigger. And if someont doesnt know that about a glock then you should have kept the darn thing out of their hands and in your holster.
     
  8. NotSoFast

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    I'm glad we don't all like (or dislike) the same thing. Life would be so boring.

    I happen to like my Glock. I find that when I abide by the four safety rules and stay alert I don't have a problem with my pistol being unsafe.
     
  9. bensdad

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    You, sir, are an anti-Glockite! You need diversity training. Report to the dept. of propaganda at once!
     
  10. Sunray

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    "...doesn't take much of a touch to "accidentally" pull off a shot..." That'd be operator failure. It's not terribly difficult to "accidentally" pull off a shot" with a 1911 either. The best safety on any firearm is between your ears.
    Mind you, I find the stock grip kind of slippery. Easily fixed with a Pachmayr slip on 'grip glove' though.
     
  11. Wesson Smith

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. I have a variety of different sidearms in each of the so-called platforms. I love 'em all, but I have to say that I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for the Glock. When I got my first "real job" in the "big city" I was wet behind the ears, with severely limited funds. I had no choice but to move into a pretty bad section of said city to be able to afford a place to live. After about three nights of break-ins and sirens wailing all evening, I scraped together my Friday paycheck, headed to a pawnbroker and picked up the first sidearm I'd ever owned. I literally felt at this point that it was a matter of dire necessity, if not self-preservation. And that first pistol I bought? It was a pre-ban Glock 17. I have to tell ya that my "little" Glock sort of became my pal sittin' in that dilapidated bedstand at night. Rightly or wrongly, I had in my mind 100% confidence that it would give me a fighting chance shoud I fall victim to a B&E, or some other form of criminal mischief. Fortunately, I never had to use it in that situation, but I still have the gun to this day, and wouldn't trade it for the world. Although I've tinkered with it a bit, giving it a more robust guide rod/spring, it will forever hold sentimental value for me, if for no other reason than that it afforded me some semi-restful nights where I otherwise would have had none. Still sits in my nightstand. Wouldn't have it any other way. ;)

    Just a little Glock human interest story from yours truly. :)
     
  12. RedNoma

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    I have a Kimber for HD. As much as I hate to I think I may pick up a Glock for CC. I think they're butt ugly as well (no offense to Glock guys, just opinion).
     
  13. gglass

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    STOP!!!

    That is not being prejudiced... That is merely common sense.

    Good call!

    Smith & Wesson (An American Company) has answered the lamentations of gun buyers like you, by introducing the M&P line of pistols. Since its 2006 introduction, the M&P has won over 370 LE department "issue" contracts. This has been at the expense of Glock and Sig Sauer... Sorry Springfield, the XD did not have any contracts to lose.
     
  14. earlthegoat2

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    Glocks are utilitarian.
    They are ugly.
    They dont feel good in the hand.
    Their trigger is questionable in the best of times.
    I would never in a million years buy one (probably an exageration)

    But if the time came when there was a score to settle I wouldnt hesitate to accept a Glock as the tool to do the settling.
     
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    in 14 posts nobody has contributed anything useful towards this. this is the best i can do, but you might just want to pm the person who started the thread. nothing useful comes from internet discussions about glock safeties.
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=111065
     
  16. TRGRHPY

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    There is another "safety" for the glock that goes on the trigger itself, but I have a hard time accepting that something you have to push/pull on the trigger is going to be "safe".

    No, that is what a holster is for. If it is unholstered, then you should be on your game, mechanical safety or not.

    Not trying to bash on you, but if you don't like glocks why are you asking about a safety for one? Do you know someone who is looking for a mech safety for it? It just seems odd because there are plenty of reliable pistols out there that would have the features that you want.

    Haven't seen one personally (don't even know of anyone who has one), but here is their site:
    http://www.cominolli.com/ourproducts.html
     
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    Not much could be useful to a thread that has in its title "I Don't like Glocks."
    Another in a long line of THR Glock bashing threads. No matter how many "left handed compliments" are tossed in for cover.

    Add Glock to a thread at THR and they will come.
     
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    1) Do you have and carry a gun?

    If yes, then all is good. If no, then there's a problem. Perhaps your attitude or state laws need to change.

    2) Do you know how to use the gun safely?

    If no, then you need to attend the NRA Home Firearms Safety course (or equivalent).

    3) Does your carry gun work reliably every time, assuming proper mechanical function?

    If no, then you need another gun.

    4) Do you know how to use the gun in a self-defense context?

    If you think that standing on the range and shooting small groups is sufficient, then you need more training.

    5) Have you committed yourself to taking action in an emergency?

    All the $3500 1911's in the world won't do anyone any good if you fail to take action at a critical moment.

    6) Can you operate any weapon?

    If you cannot competently shoot any "battlefield pick-up", then you need to familiarize yourself with a variety of weapons.


    For some people, the questions add up to Glock. The problem is that people "invest" emotional energy into their gun. Somehow, the tool becomes some sort of personal "Excaliber". Mushashi warned us to "not have a favorite weapon".
     
  20. Bill B.

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    They work .............
     
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    I never used to like Glocks...and then I got one (because it was a significant amount cheaper than my first choice). No problems with it here. it may not be pretty, but the thing sure can shoot!

    A grip safety like the XD would make me more comfortable, but I just keep my booger hook off the bang switch, and holster with caution and it's all good.
     
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    I used to not have a real affinity for glocks. I came across a G19 for a song. Owning that pistol has largely chnged the way I feel and I am in the market for a G26.

    A glock may not be the sexiest pistol out there but I come back to it because it is dead nuts reliable and I care more about that than anything else. I naturally shoot a 1911 better and love them, but practive with the glock does a lot to over come objections such as, I just can't shoot it well. I can shoot a glock adequately well.

    The good thing though is there are many other types of very good guns. No one is making you get a glock. Just buy something else. No need to make silly threads like this IMO.

    As to the safety of glocks they are perfectly safe if you know how to properly handle a gun and habitualy do so. If you dotn extra doo dads on the gun should not inspire greater confidence.
     
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    Like is an interesting word, there are all sorts of things we don't like but have to deal with.

    It took 30 years of gun ownership before I had my first Glock. Never held one or shot one before then. I took a G22 on trade one day.

    Took it to the range, fed it good ammo and bad, saw how it functioned. Developed enough respect for it as a useful and reliable tool to put it in the nightstand.

    Would I go buy one, probably not.

    Would it be the first thing I pull out when things go bump in the night, yep.
     
  24. usmc1371

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    OP. YES you can get a heavier trigger connector something like seven pounds i think. I have shot a G17 with a stiffer than ''normal'' trigger it was like a double action wheel gun with sand in it. I carry a 1911 because it makes me sleep better at night. I shoot a G35 in ipsc cause it isn't a 1911 its ugly has skate board tape on the grips and shoots every time i pull the trigger and if i wear it out I'm only out half the price of my 1911.
     
  25. Revolver Ocelot

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    mans got a point, if someone pulled a glock on me my first thoughts sure aren't gonna be "damn thats an ugly gun"
     
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