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I'm set on a Kahr cm9

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by xxxleafybugxxx, Mar 10, 2014.

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  1. xxxleafybugxxx

    xxxleafybugxxx Member

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    Reviews do it all for me.
    The issue with the nano fte on cheap ammo turns me off.
    I see few similar reviews on the cm9.
    my only issue with the cm9 is the silver slide.
    is there a way to refinish the slide to give it an all black look?
     
  2. silicosys4

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    I suggest you dig a little deeper into kahr quality.
     
  3. xxxleafybugxxx

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    Interesting you say that. I've dug deep. I like the nano but all research told me the cm9 was Better than the beretta
     
  4. Water-Man

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    Does being better than Beretta make it good?
     
  5. xxxleafybugxxx

    xxxleafybugxxx Member

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    Let me ask you this. What makes it bad? Everything I've heard about this handgun has been positive
     
  6. Fishbed77

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    You've chosen well.

    My CM9 has been 100% reliable through thousands of rounds now and is a surprisingly soft shooter for such a small 9mm.

    If you "you dig a little deeper into Kahr quality", you'll find that almost all issues that folks report involve .40S&W and .45ACP pistols. The 9mm Kahr pistols (PM9, CM9, MK9, CW9, etc.) are by-in-large good-to-go.
     
  7. utbrowningman

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    My CW9 has been flawless with exception to chambering the first round of steel cases. Most likely due to slingshoting and not using the slide release. My wife may take over the CW9 in which case I will get a CW45.
     
  8. silicosys4

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    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Kahr+cm9+issues

    Just a few from the first page of that search

    https://www.thebangswitch.com/flaw-in-the-kahr-cm9/

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=671367

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum...4-another-kahr-cm9-problem-right-out-box.html

    http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11817

    Short story version:
    2 of 3 of my Kahrs are traded away, thank god. The last one, a cw40, still has a trip back to Kahr to fix multiple issues before I can trade it away with a clear conscience.
    All three...thats right, three out of three of my polymer framed Kahrs were bad. This included a pm9. Lemons. Constant failures to feed was the BEST the guns would do. My cw40 likes to dump its mag on recoil EVERY SINGLE TIME the trigger is pulled. Soon as I can get Kahr to honor their warranty its getting fixed then its gone and I will never look twice at another Kahr.
     
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  9. Water-Man

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    I suggest the OP spends some time on the Kahr Forum. You won't have to spend alot of time to find out the problems the CM9 has, especially the follower.

    Every gun manufacturer has its problems, some more than others. Kahr is on the more side. I find it ludicrous that, in this day and age, any gun manufacturer wants us to shoot a couple of hundred rounds off to break the pistol in.
     
  10. wally

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    Before you buy, ask yourself, would you still be happy if they demanded you pay shipping with no promise of repair for a broken front frame rail like this on a less than three year old pistol?

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Jlr2267

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    I have to agree with the nay-sayers on this one. The downside with Kahr, in my experience, is that if/when you need warranty or customer service, it is a nightmare. Kahr makes some good pistols, but they send out too many bad ones, and then drag their feet in making things right. In this day of excellent customer service from companies like <fill in the blank>, why deal with that attitude?

    I bought a new CW380 which would not feed 2 consecutive rounds...even after 300 break-in rounds ($120 in ammo). I emailed customer support the same day (2weeks ago now) and they never responded. I called 3 times leaving a message (after waiting on hold for 10 min) and not a single call has been returned. I finally did get a live person who ask that I return the gun to them. I've heard nothing from them since I shipped it.
     
  12. xxxleafybugxxx

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    So do you guys think I'd be better with a nano or lc9?
     
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    To be fair, I did have a CM9 that was a really nice shooter after break-in. It's just such a crapshoot with Kahr these days that I'm no longer willing to gamble.

    If I wanted an inexpensive subcompact 9, I'd be looking at the M&P Shield...but there lots of good options, 2 of which you have already listed here.

    Personally, I did not like the trigger on the LC9...you might like it. Shoot all you can then decide.
     
  14. heeler

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    Don't let three or four guys sway you from the Kahr.
    My PM9 has been 100 per cent flawless.
    Accurate too.
     
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    Unfortunately, it is more than 3 or 4 guys. Just visit the Kahr forums and read up on some of the issues and/or lack of customer support.

    Kahr has gone downhill in recent years.
     
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    Mine is an MK9. Shot a LOT with NEVER a problem of ANY KIND. Accurate, easy to control and absolutely THE VERY BEST DA trigger on anything I've ever shot.
     
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    Visit the Kahr forum and read through the complaints and also the stickies on cleaning and inspection prior to going to the range.

    1. Clean them thoroughly prior to shooting (use BrakeCleaner)
    2. Inspect follower and ramp to ensure there is proper clearing, if they hit it has to go back to Kahr
    3. Inspect magazines to clean and ensure springs are in correctly
    4. Load round using slide stop and not slingshot (at least until broken in)

    After I did this I took it to the range and the only problems I had were occassional FTF with the 7 round extended mag. Since I only use this mag for range use I don't care. I only carry with the standard 6 round mag and have not had any problems with 600 rounds.

    I found the amount of negative press on the Kahrs troubling. However, mine has been trouble free (other than the 7 round mag). It has a very smooth nicely weighted trigger albeit a long travel especially for such a small framed gun.

    Believe it or not the Kahr is the most accurate gun i've shot next to the Walther PPK. And the recoil for a small 9mm is not a problem at all.

    It is so small and lite that you will forget you are carrying it and it will most definitely fit in a pocket.
     
  18. Water-Man

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    xxxleafybugxxx,

    I think a better choice would be the M&P Shield.

    Good luck with your decision.
     
  19. Beentown

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    I have had them all and multiples of many. The Kahrs are the best carry pistol for me. No issue with the five I have owned/own. Four friends now carry them after trying mine.

    One friend did have a follower break...kahr replaced it.

    I would be careful of the naysayers without first hand experience. If you went by all bad info Glocks are unreliable and explode often...

    Kahrs are such a popular carry pistol and the amount of complaints are miniscule compared to the thousands of satisfied owners.
     
  20. Armybrat

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    My PM9 and CW45 have been trouble-free.
     
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    leafybug, there are a lot of satisfied Kahr owners. There are, apparently, some not so satisfied. As with all gun manufacturers, you'll get the bad one here and there. As I mentioned in your previous thread, I'm staying away from Kahr presently not only because of a recent rash of troublesome threads, but there's some indication that their Customer Service isn't up to some of the other gun makers. Just a personal choice and my caution may be unwarranted. But in this market, there are plenty of choices.
     
  22. 340PD

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    It is pretty common to fine the least satisfied people are the first to chime in.
    Kahr makes great products. My PM9 works just fine and is carried and shot on a regular basis.

    Kahr is moving out of the gulag called NY state so I would expect slower responses to inquiries.

    I hear there are different shaped followers in the offing.

    If you want all black, look into a PM9. Used they run under $500.
    Example, you may have to register to see pricing, but it is currently @ $475 pre owned
    http://www.arnzenarms.com/product/24761
     
  23. Fishbed77

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    I have a CM9 and my brother has an LC9. Both have been extremely reliable, but the Kahr is far and away the better shooter. The LC9 has a terrible trigger (overly long, inconsistent, and with a weird geometry that causes anyone with medium or long fingers to have to contort their trigger finger somewhat awkwardly to fully depress the trigger.) The Kark trigger is long, but extremely smooth and consistent. Despite the slightly smaller size, the CM9 is the softer shooter. The Kahr is easier to field strip and clean, if that matters to you.

    The S&W Shield is a fine pistol, but keep in mind that it has had its issues as well, including a recall. It's also a bit larger than the CM9. I personally don't care for the manual safety of the S&W Shield, as I feel manual safeties are less than ideal on this type of pistol. There are those that say "you don't have to use the safety if you don't want to," but you should make it part of your drill to sweep that safety every time you draw, lest Murphy creep up on you (and this goes for all firearms with manual safeties).

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  24. xxxleafybugxxx

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    To me the nano is the most asthetically pleasing of the pocket 9's. Especially with the dark earth color
     
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    Mine was too until the frame rail broke, how would you feel if they aren't there to take care of you if yours broke?

    If you will be OK with that, then Kahr or EAA guns can be wonderful.
     
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