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(IN) Cop kills goose that pecked his dog

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  1. Drizzt

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    The Indianapolis Star

    April 30, 2003 Wednesday City final Edition

    SECTION: CITY STATE; Pg. 1B

    LENGTH: 259 words

    HEADLINE: Cop kills goose that pecked his dog;
    Officer faces possible 1-day suspension for killing aggressive bird trying to protect its nest.

    BYLINE: BY TOM SPALDING TOM.SPALDING@INDYSTAR.COM

    BODY:
    The seesawing Indianapolis feud between humans and Canada geese has escalated again, this time after an angry bird pecked a fight with the wrong man.

    Indianapolis Police Officer Mitch Waters was letting his K-9 partner take care of business when a goose, trying to protect a nearby nest, swooped over a fence and nipped at the dog's nose.

    Waters opened fire.

    "He did what he thought he had to do to protect his dog," said spokesman Lt. Paul Ciesielski of the Indianapolis Police Department.

    The goose did not survive.

    Now Waters could be in trouble, too. His supervisor has recommended a one-day suspension for unnecessary use of a firearm in the April 13 shooting.

    The recommendation will be considered by an IPD firearms review board and possibly by Chief Jerry Barker.

    Waters couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday.

    Canada geese, estimated at more than 100,000 in the state, have found Indiana a great place to settle down and raise families.

    But they are messy and highly aggressive around their nests -- traits that sparked several run-ins this month.

    Two condo owners were investigated after allegedly destroying nests, and a Plainfield man was treated at a hospital after being knocked to the ground and pecked bloody by two geese guarding their eggs.

    The birds have become such a headache that state officials persuaded federal authorities to grant 1,800 permits to destroy goose nests this year.

    The permits let eggs be destroyed but don't allow killing of adult birds.
     
  2. El Tejon

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    Only 100K geese here? Is that just Indy? Why are all these stupid birds here in the gritty, Industrial Nort? Do they have factory jobs, office or research jobs or something? Low taxes on their nests? Skuls are better for goslings? Why are you stupid birds here?

    Here in my city they are nothing but a nusiance. Do their business all over the parking lots and parks. Hang out on the bridges over the Wabash and befoul them. One even chased a poor girl across the grocery store parking lot last weekend. Good thing I missed with my assault SUV!

    Wish our THR bird/critter killers would be allowed to do their thing. :D
     
  3. 12-34hom

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    Noble birds.

    As far as eating them = Flying carp.

    12-34hom
     
  4. gun-fucious

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    two of the noble beasties wandered out on the highway i was traveling upon this morning

    the geese are nesting in median strips and inside cloverleafs

    next year there will be 4x more

    when one gets hit, the mate freaks out and attacks traffic

    we need more coyotes and weasles!
     
  5. CZ-75

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    Their dropings are numerous and slightly smaller than the piles left by large ruminants.

    A sjambok would be an excellent acoutrement for talking a walk in areas infested by these things.
     
  6. spacemanspiff

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    canadian geese up here in anchorage have quickly become a major problem. it used to be cute and whatnot to have highway traffic come to a stop so mama and her babies could cross the street. even big semi trucks screech to a halt for them. but now that the marshes and swamps are being developed into housing subdivisions, their habitat is disappearing. they still try to nest where they used to, even if thats on bike paths, in parking lots, etc. they arent too aggressive, but still people give them a wide berth.
    around the airport they are a worse problem. they get sucked into the jet engines and enough of them could pose serious risk to a jet trying to land or take off. Fish & Game decided to let people get permits to take their eggs, many of the natives consider goose eggs a delicacy, but not nearly as good as seagull eggs. they also use firecrackers and electronic devices to scare the birds away, but they are quite stubborn.
     
  7. 4v50 Gary

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    A one day suspension is better than Federal charges.

    Taste like carp? Geez, who's cooking your goose? Mine tastes just like chicken (kidding).
     
  8. Chris Rhines

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    Anything, and I do mean anything, that happens to geese is fine with me.

    - Chris
     
  9. Dash Riprock

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    I hope the feds do get involved. You know they would if one of us commoners had done
    that. Let sauce for the goose be sauce for the gander.
     
  10. billybaus

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    Around here we borrowed a western term, i belive art said it,

    shoot, shovel, and shut up. they are targets of opportunity out here in bfe
     
  11. HABU

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    :confused: :confused: :what: I know about agressive gooses, but you gotta be a wuss to have 2 geeses knock you down and peck you bloody.:neener: Prolly a PETA member that didn't want to hurt a poor goose.:rolleyes:
     
  12. Jim March

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    One of the funniest things I've ever seen was the time Mikey the ferret walked up to a goose in Golden Gate Park (San Francisco).

    He looked up at the goose from about two feet away. The goose looks down at him, and hisses. So Mikey hisses right back (yes, ferrets can hiss). They kept it up, politely taking turns, for about 2 minutes or so...when mutual boredom set in and they wandered off in separate directions.

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. coonan357

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    a canuk goose has a wing span of over 10 feet we used geese as gaurd dogs on the farm . until one decided to chase granpa goose vs. 12 gauge at close range 12 gauge won , if you ever gotten bitten by a goose its something you don't forget Beleive me I know ( and I didn't feel sorry for that Sob getting shot ) and another thing I rather eat a bucket of lard than a goose ....its less greasy .:D
     
  14. 280PLUS

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    i used to run into this nut case goose at a location where i worked occasionally.

    it would spend all its time pecking at it's own reflection in my trucks bumper.

    which was ok cause i heard that if it wasn't doing that it would be pecking at me.

    it wasnt a little goose either...

    :what:
     
  15. Betty

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    I'm sure the dog could have defended itself well enough if it felt threatened. He's probably a bit embarassed over the whole situation. :p

    I used to have chickens and ducks. One rooster insisted on being top of the pecking order, and that order apparently included me. He flew up in the air and attacked me with his beak and clawed feet. And I responded with my right foot. WHUMP! He bobbled his tiny bird-brain head and charged again. This time, I grabbed a length of PVC pipe and whacked him with that. Don't ever underestimate a tool using human! :p

    The rooster, upon escaping his caged area, died a painful death between the teeth of one of my boxers.
     
  16. cordex

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    I'm actually at IUPUI in downtown Indianapolis right now. These little feather-pluckin' beasties have at least two nests on campus (one on top of the library, no less).
    Never had one attack me though.
    I'm with Betty ... shouldn't a police K-9 pup be capable of tearing a goose up pretty quickly?
    Still, I'd have loved to see the cop nail the goose.
     
  17. BerettaNut92

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    Runt, LOL!!!!!!!

    As for the geese, I have 4 words: Benelli Super Black Eagle.
     
  18. Horsesense

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    I have been told that if you get a swan, it will run off all the geese.
     
  19. Hardtarget

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    A friend gave me the secret for "cooking your goose"...as follows.
    First, get a two rack smoker. Now get a turkey. Put the goose on the top rack, turkey on bottom rack. Cook. When all is done...throw away the goose and enjoy the turkey. Drippings from goose will keep turkey nice and moist. I might try this soon...if I can find a goose. :D
    Mark
     
  20. firestar

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    Do you think that cop used enough force? Maybe he should have used a .50 cal belt fed.:rolleyes: What a putz!:neener: Trigger happy cowboys.:rolleyes: If one of us had done this, I garantee that we would have had a one way trip to the slammer and not a slap on the wrist.
     
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    There was just another story involving a lady clearing the nest of a Canada goose a couple weeks ago. Goose came back and got dealt with which caused a ruckus. How do you spell ruckus? :p

    As far as 100,000 Canada geese in Indiana, if thatts truly an accurate number, then I'm pretty sure I know where half of them are... on Georgetown Road between 71st and 75th Streets. We used to complain about them all the time... just general bickering really. Worked with this one guy guy that was always talking about how pretty they were etc... We even had a couple unfriendly words about it. One day, he was walking up towards the entrance of the building and one startled him by jumping out of the bushes. Well, I guess he kicked at it with one foot, lost his balance, stumbled and broke the ankle of his other leg. :p There's is no sweeter victory than irony involving broken bones. ;)
     
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    They can be tasty if you know what you are doing. Not worth the trouble IMO. They are a pest and if it had been a dog that attacked the K9 wouldn't it have been ok to destroy the other dog? Lots of training and time/loyalty has to be built up for a good K9 team.
    I would kill a goose if it was attacking any of my family or even my sisters dog. Doubt I would shoot it but if in rural area might.
    This reminds me to see if I can pick up a neusence permit to do some target practice for some of the local land owners. Not sure of law/rules but understand they can get permission to destroy geese/animals that are harming crops/livestock and "hired" help can do the work. :)
     
  23. Apple a Day

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    Millions of years ago there were some very aggressive geese at the "duck pond" at Georgia Southern campus. People used to run from them. They would attack unless you threw them something. I got attacked , made a sort of goose shadow puppet with my hand, stuck it in one goose's face and hissed right back. The goose backed down, confused.
    This wend on for about a week at least twice a day when I crossed the center of campus. After that the geese learned to ignore me. My friends were astounded that I could walk between the two ponds without being assaulted. :evil:
     
  24. DadOfThree

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    I read that this guy was recovering from spinal surgery. Once he fell, he couldn't get back up. That what geese do, they cull the weak and injured from the herd! :D
     
  25. XLMiguel

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    The g-- d--- geese around here don't migrate, thye just hang aound and poop. A lot.. They're annnoying and a public health problem, but the bunny hugggers stick up for them.

    As far as destroying the eggs go - it's awaste of time - they just lay more. The proper thing to do is 'addle' them, i.e. shake them violently to scramble the insides. That way the stupid birds will continue to sit on them, but no more little poop machines. Addling is a team sport - the trick is to distract the geese off the nest while someone does the deed.
     
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