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  1. GLOCKBUSTER

    GLOCKBUSTER Member

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    Live and work just outside Knoxville, TN. Was watching noon news and the top story was that a 20-30 year old female had been shot in the head at Gun Craft Sports. The female died. No details as of yet.

    Gun Craft is a gun store and indoor range in West Knoxville.
     
  2. Chipperman

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    Prolly suicide. :(
     
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    A friend of mine told me about an incident he read in the local paper about an indoor range in our area. Apparently, some guy rented a handgun and bought some range ammo, went to a station, then shot himself.
     
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    .... :banghead:
     
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  5. glockten

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    GLOCKBUSTER, can you post a link to the story, or that TV station's website?
     
  6. hso

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    ~27 year old female shot herself in the head with a .38 rental gun while on the range. She waited for the range to clear and then killed herself with a .38 wad cutter fired into the right rear of the head. The bullet didn't exit.

    To say the least, the staff of Guncraft were heartbroken over this.
     
  7. Standing Wolf

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    I feel sorry for whoever has to clean up the mess.
     
  8. Darrin

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    Suicide on a budget. :rolleyes: If someone wants to take his/her own life, I'm not one to stand in the way. However, don't take down an honest business with you.

    She could have rented the gun, then steal it and kill herself somewhere else.

    I hope Guncraft's business doesn't suffer from this. :(



    Sorry if I sound cold regarding the suicide. I do send prayers to the family of the girl.
     
  9. glockten

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    Darrin, I feel much the way you do.
    Suicide is the ultimate in selfishness. No regard is given to the impact on loved ones left behind, witnesses to the act, or those who have to clean up the mess.
     
  10. Bergeron

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    I shot over there during this summer. It is very disheartening to hear that there was a suicide at the range, considering how safe and professional the staff was. My thoughts are with them, and I hope that they will be able to recover (emotinally as well as finacially) from this event.
     
  11. Kendra Pacelli

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    Being new and all, I shouldn't post an opinion, however, some people feel that there is nothing left but to kill themselves. I am sorry to hear about the store, however, I am sorry that this woman didn't find the help she needed to get out of whatever drew her to kill herself.

    My prayers are with her and her family.
     
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    kendra

    Hey welcome to THR! don't feel that in being new to the board means you should be quite! voice your oppinion, this place would be very dull and pointless if people waited till they had some sort of "seniority" before posting! i myself am usualy a lurker and just read more than post, but if you have something to say, by all means, say it!
     
  13. glockten

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    Sure you should; post count is no measure of the validity of an opinion.;)

    Welcome to The High Road!

    BTW, Kendra, let me direct your attention to this thread and invite you to join us.
     
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    Thanks for the welcome Glockton and bigjake, oh, and you all can be sure I will continue to post some opions, I just hope I don't make @??? of myself.

    :D
     
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    The wonder is...

    ...that it hasn't happened sooner.

    The grim truth is that something like this is a fact of life if you have a range and rent guns; sooner or later someone will come in and eat a bullet with a rental gun. My co-worker, the gunsmith at our shop, worked at Guncraft for 12 years and had a few choice words on the subject. One thing for certain; you can't spot someone that's going to do this as they come through the door. They're not all gloomy, with a black cloud hanging over their head, and glumly asking to rent a handgun and one bullet; they tend to be rather spry and chipper, almost upbeat, because they've already decided what they're going to do. They've come to terms with it. It's the poor schlubs at the store that have to pick up the pieces...
     
  17. Darrin

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    Kendra Pacelli,

    Greetings and welcome to THR! You're just in time, too. We're having a THR shoot on 9/14. See the thread that Glockten posted for more details!

    *and now, back to your regularly scheduled thread*
     
  18. Kendra Pacelli

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    Thank you Darrin, and I will see about making the shoot.
     
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    Happened recently at a local range.

    A guy stopped in and rented a gun & bought ammo. He was pretty upbeat and polite. He admitted to having little experience with guns and the owner personally gave him a brief safety course. As soon as he was left alone on the range, he turned sideways (to keep the muzzle downrange--the safety course stuck!) and offed himself.

    Turns out he was having some mental problems and had lost his job.

    Significant negatives besides the obvious:

    The owner had to clean up the mess.
    The first on the scene was another shooter who was pretty heavily traumatized.
    The suicide's sister called the owner a few days later, quizzed him on the situation, particularly on the lack of restrictions on renting out guns, and then asked if the owner had any idea why the suicide might have wanted to shoot a gun since he had never been interested before. Talk about denial!
     
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    The guys at the shop told me that she was friendly with a smile on her face and gave no indication that she might do anything like this. She had taken the safety orientation before and had come back in to shoot. She rented the gun, bought the ammunition, got a target and went to the range and punched some paper. Just like hundreds of others.

    The physical "mess" was cleaned up by professionals. Due to the bullet not exiting the skull it was minimal, but the cost to everyone there is unfathomable.

    The shop is a "mess" in every other way. The manager and assistants are shaken. The price of cleanup is surprising. The weapon will be destroyed. Business won't be open for who knows how long. All because someone had no hope that the pain they were feeling was unbearable and saw no other way that it would end. Now the folks at Guncraft get to share in that as well.
     
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    In Orange County CA there is only one indoor range that has not had a suicide. All of the ranges have a rule that unaccompanied shooters may not rent firearms due to these suicides. Lone shooters are more likely to harm themselves than those who show up with friends.

    Then there's this: Suicide of Columbine victim's mother
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    Mother of Columbine victim kills self in pawn shop
     
  22. CWL

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    Yeah, at TargetMasters in Milpitas , CA - after two suicides in a row, they enacted a policy of renting guns only to two or more visitors. Don't know if this policy is still in effect, but I don't think that they've had any more rental-suicides since then.
     
  23. Trempel

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    CWL, that's still the case in TMW. If you come by yourself, they won't rent you a gun even if you brought other guns with you. BTW, when did those suicides take place?
     
  24. Ken

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    It happened in Florida, too.....

    ....a little while back, and apparently a lawsuit resulted.

    http://www.sptimes.com/News/092501/Hillsborough/Shooting_range_sued_o.shtml

    I recently asked a local outdoor store that sells guns and has been around for a while why they never opened a range. The response was twofold--the price of the land in the area, as well as the fact that a long-since departed range in town had at least a couple of suicides with rented guns.
     
  25. triggertime

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    Kendra Pacelli: Welcome to THR! You'll find that its a much safer haven
    than The Freehold of Grainne. :)
     
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