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Info needed on Carbon-15 rifle: any good?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by fatelk, Oct 7, 2007.

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  1. fatelk

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    A friend called me yesterday, is looking at buying a Carbon-15 rifle. It is used but looks like new. The asking price is $600 and it comes with half a dozen mags.

    Any opinions on this rifle? I don't know anything about them. Accuracy? Reliability? Is this a good price? He asked me also if I knew if there was any way to attach iron sights.

    Any information will be appreciated.
     
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    not sure if this may help you

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    holy **** that pitiful such a thing has to exist!! i mean come on just get somebody to buy you something in another state isnt **** you already have granfathered in? wow thats like worse then canada even if so. :barf:
     
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    That's the top loading one shown above.

    It sounds to me like the plump ungulate is referring to an Optics Ready Carbine, MSRP $1085 although a gun show will have significantly lower prices.

    California is crazed. But at least someone's making a legal carbine for them.

    They love their public policy, a paradox of libertines controlling other peoples behavior. A friend who went to Stanford says it sucked. You can't have a conversation for more than 10 - 15 minutes without the subject becoming public policy.

    It's enough to make a man :barf:
     
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    Hmm

    I wonder how hard it would be to open up the bottom of that magwell? Dremel Anybody?
     
  7. fatelk

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    IIRC, the Carbon-15 does use some unique parts in it's design, and is not completely interchangeable with a standard AR-15. I haven't heard anything, good or bad, regarding the rifle. IMO, there are better ways to beuild a superlight AR.
     
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    Is it much diffrent from just an ar-15 built with the all carbon stripped lower and upper then add your m4 parts? Ive never handled one of those but i cant stand the "rattle" or gap between the upper and lower on some of the cheaper aluminum m4gereys.
     
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    Fat Elk,

    Go to Bushmaster's website. They specifically discuss iron sight options for the optics ready carbine.
     
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    Is this one made by Bushmaster, or was it made by Professional Ordnance? The ones made by ProOrd before they went bankrupt (2003?) had quite a bad reputation regarding quality.

    Bushmaster purchased ProOrd after they went belly-up and seemed to have fixed the desgn/operational problems with the Carbon-15.

    Your biggest problem will be if you ever need to service it because of the high-number of custom parts used in the Carbon-15. These are not the same as used on the standardized AR15/M4 design.
     
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    Ah, the shameless castration of a perfectly good battle rifle so the hippies in *********** will be happy. Tell them to shove it and buy a NFA M16A2.
     
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    Do not get the thing unless it's the newer Bushmaster with the normal bolt carrier, recoil buffer, stock assembly and gas block/sight assembly.

    I had one of the POS CARBON-15's. The recoil buffer fell apart and looking it over it was best just to replace it with a normal CAR buttstock assembly and bolt carrier. I still had some perfomance issues as too much gas leaked out between the gas block and barrel boss.

    What was sad about it is that it was a tack driver, when it worked.
     
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    Yeah

    They are really freaking light though. That was the thing that amazed me (yeah I know they're supposed to be but...).

    Personally, I'd probably pass. You should be able to get a normal carbine for a tad more. The mags are most likely worth less than $10 each.

    Wasn't there an issue with bullets hitting the upper receiver and gouging a hole into it, and eventually developing feed problems? I was thinking Bushmaster addressed that. Can't remember.
     
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    See post #7. It's not an optics ready carbine, nor is it that California abomination. Without having it here to look at, we figure it's a type 97 or type 21 (I can't tell the difference from the photos online) that someone added an ACE SOCOM buttstock to.

    I told him it sounds like a fair deal if it's what he wants. If he gets 8 mags with it worth $10 each, and the upgraded buttstock, and he said the guy would come down a little, I don't think he will do bad at all. Sounds like he may be sleeping on the couch for a while though.:uhoh:
     
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