Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Mark_Mark, Nov 30, 2022.
They sure have not gotten any cheaper in times: https://simpsonltd.com/mauser-interarms-american-eagle-4-9mm-d16314/
Any decent 9mm Luger will run close to 2G these days, but the cheaper and much more available ammo will eventually make up the difference.
I would (and did) save up for a 9. They are super fun shooters.
Good luck either way.
looks like 30 Luger brass is still being produced. So I should be good in the ammo department
The .30 caliber guns generally sell for less than the 9mm ones. Models with the Swiss frame (straight front strap) also often sell for less than those with the P08 frame (hump at the bottom of the front strap). Models with longer 6" barrels no longer seem to carry much of a premium over more plentiful models with 4" barrels.
Interarms had Mauser produce many very limited edition commemorative models for colllectors; most of those models sell above $2,000.
The more generic models tend to sell in the $1,000 to $2,000 range, but prices can be mixed. If you are patient, you should be able to find a 9mm with a German frame and 4" barrel near the lower end of that price range.
thanks for the write up! This gun will be a shooter and carry (bbq gun) I am very interested in the 30 Luger, 9mm bores me. It’s in perfect condition and I plan to scuff it up and use it.
If the consignment takes my $1500 offer, I’ll be happy!
I was wondering about the same thing lol
Just a couple addendums: Mauser found that the Swiss tooling was largely obsolete and unusable. The design was based on Furrer's 1929 simplifications to lower Swiss production costs.
Once Mauser finally began production, the project was run at a loss due to higher than expected production costs.
I'd buy one at the $1.5K price, assuming prime condition and a healthy bank balance. I think this version is worth owning just for the story.
I just bought a quantity of .30 Luger brass from Graf and Sons last month (I'm planning ahead for a Swiss Luger) and Lee makes dies, so while loaded ammo is hard to find, reloading is no more difficult than any similar cartridge.
If you do buy this handgun, look for a copy of this book:
The shop has 2 identical P08 in .30. My brother is getting the other! will be cool to add to already strange story of the owner of the guns. A CIA agent from the 70’s consignment them and he acquired them from another long story
Info on 30 Super Carry, 30 Luger, 380 ACP and 9mm:
wow… 30 Luger is kinda 380 power
Per the chart from @gc70 , close-ish. If utterly different in design, the 30luger being a bottleneck and all.
The 30sc was meant to be an 80-90% 9x19 at 80% of the size, and is predicated on being used in compact pistols.
Which suggests that the notion of a Luger in .30sc is an interesting academic idea, it might be a bit lackluster in actual, practical use.
Which presents an interesting notion: Which would be better, a Luger in 30sc or a Luger in 9x17 (380)?
All of the bottleneck 30s are interesting. But, I'm glad I'm not reloading pistol bottlenecks.
I have reloaded 5.7 successful! lol .30L won’t be an issue
One interesting point is the difference in maximum pressure; 30 Super Carry is about 52K PSI while 30 Luger and 9mm are both about 34K.
that’s is better! was like .30 Luger kidda sucks, but it’s not too bad
Since the late 80s I sold off the 9mms with the last 9mm sold about 5 years ago , the 1939 4" .
I enjoy shooting the .30 Luger MUCH more and found them much less problamatic than the 9mm ones especially shooting soft point or hollow point and cast bullets. The .30s always feed IF you load them hot enough !
The good Mecgar standard 9mm mags work perfect in the .30 luger and their use greatly improves reliability . Fiocchi ammo is very good and I love the soft point load and the PPU ammo is ok also. I cast Lee 93 grain round nose and the 100 grain truncated cone SWC sized down to .309" tumble lubed with great success and that 100 grain SWC easily gives 1300 FPS from the old 6" "Swiss style" American Eagle with 2" groups at 25 yards. The 3 5/8 gun is 50 FPS slower and half as accurate but very much fun and makes a sweet little carry pistol. The Fiocchi Soft point factory load is great too , but I can tell it could be loaded a little hotter in a good Luger. It does about 75 FPS less in either gun than my reloads. I have a very moderate Hornady 90 grain XTP load that does 1325 in the 6" and 1260 in the 3 5/8 gun that is very accurate and really opens up in Jack rabbits and such , the Fiocchi soft points just riivet a little .
I really like the .30 Luger and it is so easy shooting and FUN ! And economical with powder too .
Nice write UP! and those .30 SWC look SICK!
I’m headed back to the LGS next week to see if they took my offer of $1500. I think it’s a fair offer. Can’t wait to shoot it!
Several years ago, I was looking for a replacement Glock barrel. While checking Bar-Sto barrels, I noticed they offered Glock barrels in 30 Luger. I bought one, it was an easy fit. I already cast bullets for my 327 Fed Mag, so bullets were no problem. I just size them a little smaller for the 30 Luger. Star Line brass offers 30 Luge brass, so that was no problem. I bought a set of Lee dies, and I was all set.
The 30 Luger shoots great out of the Glock. It feeds with no problems and is very accurate.
I do own a 9mm Sport model, which is a keeper. They were made in 1975. Less than 100 exist. They are beautiful pistols, but rare and valuable enough, that I don't shoot it. I did put a few rounds through it in the past just to check function.
what do those go for?
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