Interesting gun shop robberies

[entropy]

Not necessarily.
These are criminals that have already been convicted, possibly multiple times and for different offenses. The point is to "remove" them from normal society until they are no longer physically capable of being a threat. These are the perpetrators of violent crimes but excluding murder. Murder is a special situation and, depending on the nature and level of the charges, may be incarceration only. Premeditated is the one exception where incarceration should NOT be an option, just used until the perp is executed. I would even entertain the idea of letting the victim's family be the executioners and perform the execution in the same method and manner as the original killing.
Make it gruesome. Air it on TV so people see what might await them. Make it so horrific that even the IDEA of doing something like that would be an anathema for viewers. The more criminals that see what their futures might be, the more reluctant to "do the crime" they will become.

Except that many have little regard for their own lives to the point where that wouldn't be a deterrent.

"remove" from society means imprisonment. My post was in reply to a forum member who is advocating "liquidation" of criminals, not just removal.


Nothing eases the loss of a loved one like good old revenge huh?
"same method and manner" quite likely would violate the Eighth Amendment. (its in your avatar )


Sure. It's not like there have been public executions in the past. How did that work out?



Horsehockey. Every teenager knows darn well what happens when you get busted. Its laughable that criminals are ignorant of what happens when they get caught. Get busted after age eighteen and you go to jail. They know because they visited their father, brother, mother or cousin who did time. For some families its a rite of passage into adulthood.

Remember "Scared Straight"? They took juvenile offenders into adult prisons where they were yelled at and humiliated by the adult inmates. You would think that would deter them from continuing their delinquent ways but no...........participants were 5-10% more likely to commit a crime than those juveniles who didn't participate.

Fear of punishment only exists for the law abiding. Criminals aren't afraid of the punishment because its part of the game.

Some criminals will do anything to not go back. From some of those, that means even obeying laws, or at least attempting to. For some that means suicide by cop after a 'blaze of glory' spree.

Yes, it is a crackpot idea, but meant to illustrate that what we could or would be doing is creating a locale which is parallel to the environment they create in the regular law-abiding world, like the famous "A Modest Proposal" essay by Jonathan Swift.

Bah! The Irish taste like peat smoke anyway.

 

[Jim Watson]

Makes me think of ‘Coventry’, a state size penal colony behind an impenetrable Barrier. Heinlein.

 

[rust collector]

Now you have me flashing back to "The Prisoner", but corrections theory and practice are not really what we do here. If you have information on other smash and grab gun shop heists, that might relate to the OP. Otherwise, this thread may be due for retirement.

 

[230RN]

Society doesn't have a problem killing evildoers. Happens often here in Texas. I would bet the number of Texans who have injured their psyches when Huntsville fires one up numbers in the dozens.

Note: "...general law-abiding public..." Not "...Texas law-abiding public..."

I'm not excluding Texas from "general,", just pointing out that Texas is not the whole world except to some Texans.

Please criticize my post on more solid grounds, not on your misperceptions and misundestandings, bearing in mind that the post was, like "A Modest Proposal," a mere literary adventure.

I'm not familiar with "Coventry" since according to my search-engining, its publications and awards were outside my period of passionate interest in science fiction. In the back of my mind I was thinking of changing Alcatraz back to such a prison. Just drop food, booze, inadequate cigarettes, many guns and much ammunition onto the island.

I agree with the "retirement" suggestion.

Terry

 

[Insignificant bill]

Well Australia was a penal colony as was French Guiana

 

[rust collector]

When it is more important to make your point than to be on point, we've passed the point of no return.