Interesting news from Belgium

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Some good news for the Belgians!

Belgium, which used to be the most anti-gun country in the world, has just passed a law allowing the free ownership (without registration of any kind) of a certain number of Historical handguns and rifles.

Among them:

-The first C96s
-Lugers in 7.65 parabellum
-Russian Nagants
-Webleys in .455
-Lebel 1892 in 8mm
-Colt 1873 SAA in various calibers.

and lots of others!!!

link (in French and Dutch, the 2 official languages of Belgium): http://www.unact.be/fr/pdf/BS02082007.pdf



Gun control doesn't always go in the wrong direction! Let's hope it's the beginning of a new trend towards sanity!
 
Are there any changes that will affect visitors?
I want to hop on the Eurostar and spend a few days in Brussels. It would be great if I could do some target shooting too (pistols mainly).
 
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-Lugers in 7.65 parabellum
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Ooh! Ooh!

Quick!

We need to pass some historical handgun laws!

Applies to replicas, too, right? :evil:

Yeah, gotta apply to replicas.

Now, if we can just get Federal and Remington and Winchester to do production runs of 7.65 para, we'll be all set.
 
This is interesting news. Hopefully they'll realize that allowing ownership of guns won't make crime go out of control, and allow more.
 
Good for them! Surely they could include the old antique 1911 in there...
 
Are there any changes that will affect visitors?
I want to hop on the Eurostar and spend a few days in Brussels. It would be great if I could do some target shooting too (pistols mainly).
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I think so.
As a Brit you are officially a European citizen, so you are granted the same rights when in Belgium (except voting I guess).

But I can't be definite about it. It Would be great if a Belgian poster could answer you on that one.
 
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Surely they could include the old antique 1911 in there...
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Yes they should.

While looking at the list, I saw that a Russian version of the 1911 was allowed, chambered in a weird caliber:

Russia + USSR Colt 1911 (British mod.) 11,2 x 23 cal.


???? What's that ???
 
man, if there were ANY country you'd think would be pro-gun, given their historic position of being viewed as little more than a highway on the way to invading other important countries by certain entities, you'd think it'd be Belgium...
 
barman said:
Yes they should.

While looking at the list, I saw that a Russian version of the 1911 was allowed, chambered in a weird caliber:

Russia + USSR Colt 1911 (British mod.) 11,2 x 23 cal.


???? What's that ???
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.45 ACP. (metric).?
 
How can belgium be so anti gun when thewy produce so many cool firearms. P-90 and its entire family, FAL's, FN's, lol yet thier citizens cant even own one tisk tisk. I hope the entire EU gets a wake up call and lets its subjects enjoy the rights of citizens.
 
I thought Belgium was quite allowing for gun ownership until the early 90's?
I looked through that list...
Mosin-Nagants are OK. So are Nagant revolvers. And a bunch of other quite lethal weaponry. Most of it mil-surp. Guess you guys (in the US) are getting some competition now for the mil-surps :evil:

OMG! AG42 Ljungmanns are on the list!
 
What are they, nuts!

There will be blood on the streets!

They'd best brace for a crime tsunami, as criminals start knocking over liquor stores with their mosins.

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I hope the entire EU gets a wake up call and lets its subjects enjoy the rights of citizens.
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As I'm sure you know, the European parliament is in both Strasbourg and Brussels. Brussels sets the trends for the whole EU.

That would be great. A small step toward more freedom, with the USA as a model (I'm really dreaming, but who knows).
 
barman: I thought you guys could buy a whole bunch of weaponry without to much hazzle? Licensing for shotguns and manually repeting rifles seems to be a mere formality? Am I correct?
Also, aren't black powder guns freely available as well to you?
 
barman: I thought you guys could buy a whole bunch of weaponry without to much hazzle? Licensing for shotguns and manually repeting rifles seems to be a mere formality? Am I correct?
Also, aren't black powder guns freely available as well to you?
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Guns laws are fairly relaxed in France.
You're right, black powder guns are freely available and licences for most smokeless guns are just a formality, but you need to be either a hunter or a sports shooter.
I was just wishing it to be the same for the whole of the European Union.
 
Same here. Heck, I'd be dancing around like crazy if I could get just a new black powder revolver without needing a license for it...I don't REALLY care about tacticool. I'm not very interested in competetition. I just want something to kill beer cans with :(.
Question: Is it only reproduction black powder weapons that are freely available, or can you buy the modern looking rifles/pistol/shotguns as well? How about the small NAA BP revolvers? Are there any regulations on black powder/pyrodex?
 
Is it only reproduction black powder weapons that are freely available, or can you buy the modern looking rifles/pistol/shotguns as well? How about the small NAA BP revolvers? Are there any regulations on black powder/pyrodex?
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Regarding modern black powder designs, only muzzleloaders are free. No modern design BP cartridge guns.

I don't know what are the small NAA BP revolvers you are mentionning.

The regulation on black powder is that you are allowed to store (at home) 4 pounds of it per person. But if you have a wife and a kid, that makes it 12 pounds!
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Is it only reproduction black powder weapons that are freely available, or can you buy the modern looking rifles/pistol/shotguns as well? How about the small NAA BP revolvers? Are there any regulations on black powder/pyrodex?
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Regarding modern black powder designs, only muzzleloaders are free. No modern design cartridge guns.
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Barman: re. The Viking's question, I think he was talking about modern (polymer and stainless, ergonomic stocks etc) muzzle-loaders, or only "classic" looking reproductions. Here in Pennsylvania, the shops have a huge variety of modern muzzleloaders, because the law limits deer hunting to those, or at least provides a longer season to muzzle-loaders. (Someone from PA who actually hunts deer can probably clarify this.)

timothy
 
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