Hi,
photos below are the internal lock flag I removed from my S&W M&PR8. This is my first and only pistol with about 3000 rounds through it, 85 of which were full power magnum rounds (I have the second half finished box right here)
Anyway I was at the range shooting target loads. but I had some 357 mag Winchester Super X 158gr JHP rounds in the bag which I like to shoot a few every now and again. So I will be better prepared if ever I needed them.
So I loaded up the magnum rounds and after the second shot the revolver 'seized' 'bound' 'locked'. I am not sure of the terminology (Im Australian) and would not fire. Couldnt pull the trigger or the hammer or open it.
After a small amount of wiggling and jiggling it seemed to free itself up.
Dry fired it a few times and it seemed fine.
I fired a few more target loads but I noticed the trigger felt a bit rougher than before, in the initial range of movment, so I thought it was definately time to pack it up.
Got home got on the net and did a lot of reading and opened the pistol up and see if there was a bit of something inside it making it misbehave.
Took it apart and while there decided to remove the internal lock just in case it was the culprit, as I had read of accounts of the lock giving some ppl trouble with lighter revolvers and heavy loads. Other than that I had no reason to think it was the lock and didnt really have anything against this contentious item.
Upon removing the 'bolt' (I think it is called) I noticed some what I thought was wear on the frame, under the bolt, but it actually rubbed away so I think it was a bit of ground up metal.
In fact I now think it was a bit of ground metal that had broken off the internal flag part of the lock.
Unfortunately I am not sure exatcly what this piece should look like. Its hard to find a clear shot of it on the net. But the ones I could find make my piece look like it has a chip out of it in the bottom, near the semicicular cut out where the spring is visible
See photos below.
the pen shows how tiny this bit it and points to the bit I mean
This is the best photo of the flag I could find on the internet. Notice it doesnt looked chipped !
I was one of those guys that said I dont care about my internal lock because you never really hear any confirmed stories about it going wrong.
Needless to say that opinion has changed
Thought the good folk here might appreciate the opportunity to comment
Of course these is a chance that my piece is meant to look like that, which is why this post is here. If it is meant to be that shape then there is something else I need to find wrong with my revolver ;( as I want to know why it locked like that.
Dan
photos below are the internal lock flag I removed from my S&W M&PR8. This is my first and only pistol with about 3000 rounds through it, 85 of which were full power magnum rounds (I have the second half finished box right here)
Anyway I was at the range shooting target loads. but I had some 357 mag Winchester Super X 158gr JHP rounds in the bag which I like to shoot a few every now and again. So I will be better prepared if ever I needed them.
So I loaded up the magnum rounds and after the second shot the revolver 'seized' 'bound' 'locked'. I am not sure of the terminology (Im Australian) and would not fire. Couldnt pull the trigger or the hammer or open it.
After a small amount of wiggling and jiggling it seemed to free itself up.
Dry fired it a few times and it seemed fine.
I fired a few more target loads but I noticed the trigger felt a bit rougher than before, in the initial range of movment, so I thought it was definately time to pack it up.
Got home got on the net and did a lot of reading and opened the pistol up and see if there was a bit of something inside it making it misbehave.
Took it apart and while there decided to remove the internal lock just in case it was the culprit, as I had read of accounts of the lock giving some ppl trouble with lighter revolvers and heavy loads. Other than that I had no reason to think it was the lock and didnt really have anything against this contentious item.
Upon removing the 'bolt' (I think it is called) I noticed some what I thought was wear on the frame, under the bolt, but it actually rubbed away so I think it was a bit of ground up metal.
In fact I now think it was a bit of ground metal that had broken off the internal flag part of the lock.
Unfortunately I am not sure exatcly what this piece should look like. Its hard to find a clear shot of it on the net. But the ones I could find make my piece look like it has a chip out of it in the bottom, near the semicicular cut out where the spring is visible
See photos below.
the pen shows how tiny this bit it and points to the bit I mean
This is the best photo of the flag I could find on the internet. Notice it doesnt looked chipped !
I was one of those guys that said I dont care about my internal lock because you never really hear any confirmed stories about it going wrong.
Needless to say that opinion has changed
Thought the good folk here might appreciate the opportunity to comment
Of course these is a chance that my piece is meant to look like that, which is why this post is here. If it is meant to be that shape then there is something else I need to find wrong with my revolver ;( as I want to know why it locked like that.
Dan
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