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Internal lock poll

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Lucky Derby, Sep 27, 2011.

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Do you LIKE internal locks?

  1. Yes, I wish all my firearms could have them.

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  2. No I dislike/hate them (functional/political/asthetic)

    103 vote(s)
    71.0%
  3. I really don't care. It is a non-issue.

    41 vote(s)
    28.3%
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  1. Lucky Derby

    Lucky Derby Member

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    Does anyone like the IL? Be they S&W, Taurus, Ruger or other. I see lots of people dislike or even hate them. Some people don't seem to mind them. I have never come across anyone who likes the things. As in would always pick the one with the lock if all else was equal, or maybe even if the IL equiped gun was $10-$100 more.
     
  2. DeepSouth

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    I despise them, if I can replace it I do.
     
  3. kozak6

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    The problem is that locks aren't for us, they're for lawyers. Any idiot can lock a revolver with an ordinary padlock through the cylinder or frame, and it's potentially easier to actually just do this than messing around with some inbuilt locks.

    S&W has a lousy lock that is known to accidentally engage from time to time. It would be tempting to remove it.

    Ruger's lock is well designed and I wouldn't have any problems with owning a revolver equipped with one.

    I'd probably skip a Taurus regardless of lock due to reasons outside of the scope of this thread.
     
  4. Smith357

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    Putting a lock on a revolver is akin to a crossbolt safety on a Wincheser 94 or a screen door on a submarine.
     
  5. rayban

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    Doing a poll about them is just about as useful too.
     
  6. Thaddeus Jones

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    I despise them, and the manufacturers who put them in the guns. Don't own any and won't!

    Way too many nice revolvers out there to bother with those ugly wind up guns. :)
     
  7. wlewisiii

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    I own two revolvers. One with, one without. I can't tell the difference when shooting.
     
  8. nulook45

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    They are just another thing to break at the worst possible time. common sense and a padalock does the same thing
     
  9. Waywatcher

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    Good poll. I'm interested to see the running tally.
     
  10. bushmaster1313

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    Why would anyone put a pole inside a lock?

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  11. Snowbandit

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    I bought one IL gun only because it wasn't available without the lock. Not planning to buy anymore. The lock is still in the box and the gun's in my pocket. I used to buy a new S&W at least every year. Since they came out with the stupid locks I have bought a grand total of one. It's their loss. I've got more than I could wear out in several lifetimes anyway.
     
  12. Guillermo

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    the Smith IL is idiotic. Works on the same axis as the recoil of the gun. Only the most depraved and moronic would consider such a design. I will never own a gun with a Smith style IL.

    Ruger and Taurus are fine. They can't lock themselves.

    I did not vote as the poll was not specific.
     
  13. dashootist

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    The lock is an abomination. Worst thing is that it is so conspicuous. Everytime I go to reload, the first thing I see is a disgusting wart. It is worse than MIM. I hate those too.
     
  14. Dogguy

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    I would prefer not to have them. But if the gun came with a lock, I just ignore it. I have two S&W J-frames with locks and two without. My main carry J-frame does not have the lock.
     
  15. Mike1234567

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    To make it appear Pollok-made.
     
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    S&W's is a dealbreaker for me.

    Ruger's is ignored easily enough.
     
  17. 788Ham

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    I didn't/won't vote, too vague. I wouldn't buy one with a lock, have had S&W's for years, won't buy another one, specifically because of the locks, but also because of the poor workmanship the last few years. I can buy a lock if I need one, don't put a mandatory one on it to sell me.
     
  18. Lucky Derby

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    The poll was wan't suposed to be specific to any brand or design. Do you like the idea of an IL? yes, no or don't care?

    Anyway my polling is showing so far what I thought would be they case. Some don't like it, some don't care, not one vote for likes it.
     
  19. OldCavSoldier

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    I think all the S&W Hillary-hole lock hooey is just that. There have been no verified occurrences of the lock "accidentally" engaging. (Can you imagine someone using an S&W in a life/death instance and the lock "accidentally" engaging causing the owner of the S&W to get killed? The lawsuits would be uncountable!!)

    Inelegant design? Yes. Ugly? Yes. A turn-off to buying an S&W? Not for me, but for many.

    I carry S&W revs with and S&W revs without the lock and have not had any problems with any of my S&Ws.
     
  20. aHFo3

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    I no longer own any internally lockable guns. I don't plan to purchase an IL S&W in the future or ANY Tauri. Ruger appeased the lawyers acceptably.

    Seriously could you picture Dirty Harry explaining in his awesome Dirty Harry voice, "No, you see here you insert this little key into the lock above the cylinder release and once it is unlocked you have the most powerful handgun in the world..."
     
  21. JohnM

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    That's about right!
     
  22. Warp

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    I don't really care. All else equal I'd go without, but my 642 has one and it doesn't bother me.
     
  23. dashootist

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    Do you think if police departments are still issuing revolvers, they would want the internal locks for their officers, who depend on a reliable firearm for survival?
     
  24. Lucky Derby

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    dashootist: That is why the M&P series of auto pistols is offered both with and without a lock. They know that LE sales would be non-existant if they only offered it with a lock.
     
  25. Guillermo

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    The Idiotic S&W design is a chance for Darwin to show off his theories
     
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