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Iowa HF384 to legalize suppressors

Discussion in 'Activism' started by bluekouki86, Feb 22, 2014.

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  1. bluekouki86

    bluekouki86 Member

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    We here in Iowa are one of only 11 states that do not allow the ownership of suppressors. We are trying to change that now. HF384 has passed committee and is heading to the floor for consideration. We would appreciate your support from inside or outside of Iowa. This would be a big step for Iowa firearm owners.
     
  2. Midwest

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    Good Luck to our friends in Iowa.
     
  3. hso

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    Where does the pressure need to be applied?

    Suppressors are safety devices that are sold in Europe over the counter because they help reduce hearing damage and limit the noise disturbing those not involved with shooting or hunting.
     
  4. bluekouki86

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    Pressure needs to be applied to the members of the Iowa State House of Reps. I have personally wrote mine, and about 15 others so far. It has only been 3 years since we got shall issue concealed carry so we are making great progress here in a purple state.

    Here is a list of all Iowa House Reps

    https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislators/house
     
  5. bluekouki86

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    Here is a copy and paste list for your favorite email to make things easy

    dwayne.alons@legis.iowa.gov,
    marti.anderson@legis.iowa.gov,
    rob.bacon@legis.iowa.gov,
    chip.baltimore@legis.iowa.gov,
    clel.baudler@legis.iowa.gov,
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    Is it me, or does this allow for the legalization of SBS's, SBR's, and machine guns as well?
     
  8. bluekouki86

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    The way it reads to me (after 5 or 6 times through) is it only redefines the other NFA weapons, not legalize them.
     
  9. OneWound

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    Blue, here is the part that I believe allows us to own NFA weapons:
    "A person who possesses a device described in section 724.1, subsection 8, or a machine gun, short-barreled rifle, or short-barreled shotgun, as those terms are defined in section 724.1, in compliance with the federal Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. ch. 44 and the federal National Firearms Act of 1934, 26 U.S.C. ch. 53"
     
  10. bluekouki86

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    It is entirely possible that would open the doors for full NFA legalization. I certainly hope it does. The text of the bill is somewhat difficult to interpret (probably not on accident). I'll do more research and contact the sponsor of the bill and report back.
     
  11. Ryanxia

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    oss117 - should be fine as long as you get the tax stamp for it. Newly manufactured suppressors are sold all the time. You can even make your own! (again with the tax stamp and assuming your state allows NFA items).
     
  12. Darkbob

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    I wanted to add a few things.

    When the bill passed its latest subcommittee, it did so with bi-partisan support. So that makes me hopeful that it at least has a chance of passing.

    Also, when I e-mailed Rep. Windschitl (the bill's author and lead sponsor), he did refer to the bill as a "suppressor bill", however, I agree that the language does indeed allow for all NFA regulated goodies. In the Explanation section at the end of the bill, it says that "The bill amends provisions in Code section 724.2 authorizing the possession of certain offensive weapons in certain circumstances" which include possession that is "in compliance with the provisions of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968 and the federal National Firearms Act of 1934".

    I've emailed my House rep, Daniel Lundby (D), and received a reply stating that he would be voting for this bill! I was kind of shocked. I'm still waiting for a reply from my senator.

    Lastly, if you live in Iowa, please feel free to use the following link that was sent to me by Iowa Firearms Coalition to automatically send your reps a letter promoting this bill. It only takes a few moments and only asks for your e-mail (so they can reply :)), and your zip. You can also add your name as the Signature (bottom of the page), which they say is optional.

    https://www.votervoice.net/IFC/campaigns/34420/respond
     
  13. bluekouki86

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    Ok I contacted the author if the bill and you are correct OneWound. This bill as written would legalize all NFA weapons, BUT he is proposing an ammendment to legalize only the suppressor.
     
  14. bluekouki86

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    I have an update!

    The bill has be renumbered HF2381 and will be voted on TODAY 2/27/14. Make another push and contact your Reps!
     
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    The text of the bill has completely changed. It is much more simple, BUT they removed all references to all other NFA regulated items. It is now ONLY a suppressor bill. I copied the text of the bill below.

    Even though it is not as good as it's previous version, it's still a big improvement. If you live in Iowa, please contact your reps. You can find them with this link.

    HOUSE FILE
    BY COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
    (SUCCESSOR TO HF 384)

    A BILL FOR

    1 An Act concerning the possession of firearm suppressors.
    2 BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF IOWA:
    TLSB 1515HV (2) 85
    rh/rj

    1 1 Section 1. Section 724.1, subsection 8, Code 2014, is
    1 2 amended by striking the subsection.
    1 3 Sec. 2. NEW SECTION. 724.3A Firearm suppressors.
    1 4 Any person, trust, corporation, or other entity may possess
    1 5 a firearm suppressor if the firearm suppressor is registered
    1 6 and possessed in compliance with federal law and regulations.
    1 7 EXPLANATION
    1 8 The inclusion of this explanation does not constitute agreement with
    1 9 the explanation's substance by the members of the general assembly.
    1 10 This bill relates to the authorized possession of firearm
    1 11 suppressors.
    1 12 Under current law, a mechanical device that silences,
    1 13 muffles, or suppresses the sound of a firearm when fired is
    1 14 defined as an offensive weapon. A person who is not otherwise
    1 15 authorized to possess an offensive weapon is guilty of a class
    1 16 "D" felony.
    1 17 The bill allows any person, trust, corporation, or other
    1 18 entity to lawfully possess a firearm suppressor if the
    1 19 suppressor is registered and possessed in compliance with
    1 20 federal law and regulations.
    LSB 1515HV (2) 85
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    Good luck guys, let us know how it goes!
     
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    I don't think there was ever any real plan to get all NFA pushed through. The main buzz has been about suppressors the whole time. At least its a step in the right direction - makes zero sense at all for IA to have gun laws on par with liberal east coast states.

    I think it has a better than good chance of passing through today. Unfortunately, the real fight will be getting it out of senate committee. Rob Hogg (sen. judiciary chair) has already said that "we don't need to vote on it this year"

    Really wish I could just place my order for my threaded Lone Wolf barrel now, but I feel like that might jinx it.
     
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    AHHHH I'm streaming the video feed of debate right now - its brain melting!

    assassins, mass murder, contract killers, oh my!
     
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    Passed 82 - 16
     
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    Yes! It passed resoundingly in the House. Hopefully it will have a similar success in the Senate!

    If you haven't yet, Iowans, contact your Senators!
     
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    I've already emailed and heard back from my republican state senator, Amy Sinclair, that she will be supporting the bill. Hopefully it will find support on both sides of the aisle in the Senate as well.

    Now I'm wishing I'd bought the Savage Mark II last year with the threaded barrel instead of the non-threaded...
     
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    Good luck guys! If you ever get class 3 approved, I'll move across the river!
     
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    As if cheap and easily acquired CCW licences that allow you concealed and open carry of any legal gun you want isn't enough reason.
     
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    I wish the best of luck to our friends just west of us. Never happen here in Illinois. The chicagocrats would fight it to their last breath.
     
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