Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by JCooperfan1911, Jul 23, 2022.
Is it enough firepower for defense?
Its all about picking a number that you're comfortable with and stopping at that point. If 20 rounds works for you then carry 20.
EDIT: And just in case it wasn't clear - the percentages above are for example only and are not accurate - you'd need an actually statistical study to get the proper #'s, but they'll still generally follow the same pattern of having a diminishing return.
99.9% of us will never need a firearm for defensive use
Of that 0.1% that do, 99.9% will only brandish the firearm and not shoot
Of that 0.1% that do shoot, 99.9% will end right there
Of that 0.1% that does not end, 99.9%….
In my opinion - 20 is more than enough. Like @mgmorden says - if you are comfortable, you are good. Quantity, like caliber, is a personal decision. When I was deciding what to carry, I started with a S&W 640. Deciding 5 was not enough, I swapped to a Glock 23. Personal decision - no right or wrong
automatic weapons for decades. Even in combat you carry the rifle 99.9% of the time and maybe shoot it in anger the rest. I carried a full load of 20s in SEA and even shooting against AKs it was fine. Would 30s have been better? Maybe, but their extra weight and size would have been detrimental most of the time. Better 20s in the webgear than 30s in your hands.
That said, in a HD situation weight isn't likely to be an issue - but then you’re not using an automatic weapon are you? if you’re in a firefight defending your home you are in ‘way over your head as an individual. One man alone has little chance of “winning” a firefight against multiple tactical intruders in a home. For a single intruder - 20 should be plenty.
I am of the opinion that in a defensive situation, if it takes more than 5 rounds, you probably should have been running from the start.
Fantasy rioters storming across your threshold? Prolly not.
Fantasy zombies out for brains? Prolly not.
Fantasy TEOTWAWKI situation? Prolly not.
Defense against small deer? More than enough
While potentially true, assuming that running would be an option, logic requiring determinations after the fact are largely inadequate for preplanning, LOL. You won't know if a self defense situation is going to take more or less than X number of rounds for resolution before the situation happens.
Hunting and self defense are not logical comparisons for determination of self defense needs.
How many attackers do you think you'll face? How many rounds do you think you'll need per attacker? And how many times do you expect to miss?
If 20 rounds in the gun won't do it, you might need to look at your strategies, tactics and training before considering more capacity.
Just my two cents.
I keep 30s in the closet cuz they give Nancy, Chuck, and Joey the vapors.
No one can answer that question but you.
Here is an interesting article on the topic: https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/much-ammo-capacity-enough/
How fast and consistent are your mag changes?
Ive got a Scorpion G-Code magazine carrier that I’ve been wearing at 8 o’clock. It stores a 20 round Magpul very nicely. It’s an open top pouch and magazine changes are very rapid.
If asked, a 5-shooter is not the choice I would recommend to someone else. Nor am I advocating magazine limits.
FWIW, my reasoning behind the choice of a 5-shooter is that I have limited financial resources: even with self-defense insurance, I literally cannot afford to miss and absorb the liability of hitting a bystander. More to the point, I could not live with myself if I ever did. Five shots means every single one will be deliberate and as accurate as I am able to deliver, because in the back of my mind I know that's all I have available.
It might sound stupid to you but it's a good fit to my psyche. And therefore ten or twenty seems like plenty to me.
Most defensive shootings i have investigated have had fewer than 10 rounds fired. Most, but not all. I recently posted a story in another forum where one guy fired 15 rounds from his handgun and 30 rounds from his rifle in a home invasion scenario.
I wouldn't feel undergunned with a 20 round mag, but i only use them for shooting from a bench. I buy and use 30s.
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