Is a 590A1 an overkill for home defense?

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  1. JLStorm

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    I am caught between a 590 and a 590a1 for home defense. I am definitely going with one of these because of the position of the safety for a left handed shooter. This gun will sit in the safe most of the time and be practiced with semi regularly, but that is about it. It wont be used for hunting, it wont even travel outside the house for anything other than range time. I always like to go with the best, but right now cash is tight and I dont want to let my "if it costs more it must be better" side get the best of me, however I could afford the 590A1 if I had too.

    I know the differences between the two guns and the only real advantage I can see for my situation may be that the thick walled barrel of the 590A1 may add more weight to the gun which may help recoil. While the all metal trigger and safety are great, I just dont think it will be used enough in harsh enough conditions to take advantage of them.

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  2. daysleeprx

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    Doesn't sound like the extra features of the A1 are blowing you away...save the extra money by getting a 590, and use the savings to get extra practice ammo. :)
     
  3. tanksoldier

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    For a gun that was going to ride around in a police cruiser, truck, or boat or see combat/ field use often I'd go with the more robust A1.

    For a gun that is mostly going to sit in a closet, under the bed or in a safe and only occasionally come out for practice or a shotgun side match I'd pick the regular 590.
     
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    Given your outlined use/need I'd save even more money and get a HD model of a 500. The safety is in the same place. I picked up my 500 Persuader for $200 used. It is a solid home defense tool.

    If you really must have a 590 or 590a1 I'd go with the 590.
     
  5. LeonCarr

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    No such thing as overkill for home defense.

    Just my .02,
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    Doesn't seem to me you're talking about a whole lot of difference as far as $$ are concerned, in fact there are some 590A1 versions that cost less than some of the 590 models available. Depends on magazine size, barrel length and sights you want. For no more money than the prices listed indicate, why not get the best gun you can to start with and be done with it?

    lpl/nc
     
  7. ArmedBear

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    Ditto. Especially since you're a leftie.

    For a rightie, an 870 Express HD will do fine. It's durable and reliable, and I like a safety I can work by feel. But not for a leftie!

    From what I've seen at the range, I'm not thrilled with a 500 for other than "sporting purposes." I'd go 590 if my life depended on it, and with a 590, you can practice all you want without wearing anything out.

    The military isn't stupid, nor does the military overspend on personal weapons; whatever extra-cost features they demand, you want. I'd get whichever 590 appeals to you, in terms of features and feel. If you do otherwise, you'll just wish you had the money back to spend on the other variant.
     
  8. Dave McCracken

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    All of the US made pumpguns are very effective HD tools.

    All HD tools may be needed as Community Defense tools also. All CD tools do well for HD.

    A 500, bone stock, in trained hands is an incredibly effective weapon. Whether or not the extra stuff on the 590 is worth the extra cash is a decision only you can make....
     
  9. PJR

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    This is like comparing the Remington Express HD with the Police models. The Express will get the job done in exemplary fashion. The Police model has some added features that I like and despite the higher cost was my choice.

    Part of the equation with any gun is the confidence you have in it. If the 590a1 gives you some extra confidence then it's worth the extra money. That's how I feel about the 870 Police.
     
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    I never mentioned anything about the 500, and I am not interested in one. I asked a question regarding the 590 and 590A1.
     
  11. bowfin

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    Using 2 3/4" shells, the recoil will not be a factor in either gun.

    I'm done with buying "good deals" and "bargains" with firearms. I'll save up another week, or month, or year, and buy exactly what I want, or go without.

    If the features don't matter to you, then by all means get the 590. If both were free and you would take the 590A1, that tells me you REALLY want the 590A1, so get that one.
     
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    I have the 590-a1. The 8+1 shot mil - spec. I like the heavy barrel aspect of it for durability. I like the ghost ring sights but did not care for the speed-feed stock available on the 590 only version. The overall cost of the gun was under $500 so it was worth it in my opion. A good revolver or 5 shot pump shotgun would probably be well enough protection in most homes though. MY shotgun is my shtf weapon, with hollowpoint slugs and buckshot at hand.:)
     
  13. Reddbecca

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    Hell no, the 590 and 590A1 are perfectly suited for home defense. Just slightly longer than the Mossberg 500 with riot barrel, and it holds more rounds of ammunition which might just be needed.

    I say go for it. I'm going to once I can find one.
     
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    I have the 590 8+1 with Ghost Ring sights. Like your plan, mine hangs above a closet door unless I am training with it. It doesn't get tossed around where the A1 items would be an advantage.

    Great shotgun, especially with Brenneke slugs!
     
  15. Doggieman

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    the A1 will offer you nothing more than the 590 -- or for that matter any other US-made pump gun -- for your purposes.

    Spend the extra money on ammo.
     
  16. Line Rider

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    Mossberg 590A1

    I have my Mossberg 590A1 sitting beside me as I write this...:D

    Bought the 590A1 over the 500 for a few good reasons. First reason, is that it is a Mil Spec(MIL SPEC 33343E) gun. For more information see American Rifle May 2007. Second, I hate the plastic trigger guards and safeties Mossberg uses on the 500's. And finally, the resell on the 590A1 is better than on the 500's or the Mavericks.

    There is nothing wrong with a 500 but I'd rather have the 590A1
     
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    Personally I'm not against the 590 series for home defense (any gun is better than no gun) but I'd definitely say it's overkill. But hey, if you've got the cash and it won't ever be used for anything but HD I say go all out and get the 590A1.

    I just noticed you said this though:

    If you don't think you'll be taking advantage of the features of the 590A1, you aren't going to have any advantage with the 590 either. You ruled out the 500 already, which sounds like exactly the gun you need. Up to you though.
     
  18. WolfMansDad

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    Is this thread still alive? I have a 590 (barrel shroud, front bead), and its recoil is very mild. You won't need the extra weight of the 590A1. In fact, you might like the lighter one if you want to hunt with it. Stranger things have been done.
     
  19. kellyj00

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    get the 500...or a remington 870. Used are about the same price.
     
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    Rule 37 from “Habits of Highly Effective Pirates”: There is no overkill, only “Open Fire” and “Reload.”

    (I can’t believe we are 20 posts and 20 days into this thread and I’m the first one to quote that.)

    http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20040406.html

    http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20040223.html

    http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20061009.html

    http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20040623.html
     
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    I got a 590A1 used for $230 in excellent condition. I like the heavy barrel and the 5 shot mag, but if they had had the 590 at the store and it wasn't A1, I still would have bought it.

    You can't go wrong either way.
     
  23. 22LongRifle

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    The most important feature, to me the non expert, is how well you can move in the area of operation with you weapon. In my home, I like the 18" barrels and a plian front bead due to the tight spaces. I've got the 590, with the 20" barrel, in the garge/pole barn where I can move a little easier.

    Just a bit of fat to chew on....

    Jerry
     
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