Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Gryffydd, Mar 27, 2009.
A gun should be treated as if it is loaded until it is unloaded. If I pick up a firearm and verify that it is unloaded then until I no longer have immediate control of the weapon then it is unloaded. It can now be treated differently than a loaded gun.
I don't always treat a gun like it is loaded. It's not practical to do so. For example, when I field strip some of my guns you have to pull the trigger to do so. Do I point it at my head and pull the trigger? Of course not. But I do pull the trigger inside my house which I wouldn't do with a loaded gun. Therefore I do treat it different than I would a gun that was loaded.
Until you eject clip and/or open action & empty the weapon of cartridges, then verify that both the chamber and cartridge storage are empty.
And even then don't trust it.
When I was a 14 year old kid, a good friend of mine accidentally shot and killed his younger brother with an "unloaded" pump .22 LR. This tragedy led to permanent major psychological problems, and his own suicide at age 21.
This is exactly why all guns are always loaded. If every gun handler took this simple rule to heart, no person will get hurt or killed through accidental discharge.
always drop the magazine first and make sure that the snap caps are what is in it, and I live by myself. A gun is always loaded.
Always handle guns with respect and caution.
No more need be said, though there are many people who will insist otherwise. Unfortunately, they're convinced the rest of the world is comprised of only children who require many rules.
Whether or not they are loaded depends upon whether or not they are actually loaded. Those who insist guns are always loaded are glossing over the fact that guns, indeed, can be unloaded by the user. Unloaded guns can be safely handled in certain ways that loaded guns cannot.
A clear example of this is for cleaning and maintenance. Sometimes, the user must place a body part in front of the muzzle. A person who has handled the weapon with respect and caution, verified its loaded status and removed all ammunition from the area may safely push a cleaning rod down the bore. Stating that guns are always loaded would mean that cleaning and maintenance is not possible.
Respect and caution...that's all that's needed. Doing otherwise results in casual handling because the "always loaded" rule is violated. Break the rule once and the user can become acclimated to breaking the rule frequently. At some point, the rule will be broken when the user is not handling the weapon with respect and caution.
Yes. A gun is always "loaded"...
The rest of you flunked.
What's so funny about this question is that tree is NO gray area. A gun is very obviously not always loaded. Yet the idea of treating a gun as if it's loaded is so ingrained in peoples minds that they'll ignore the obvious reality that a gun is not always loaded. I think that the behavior that this prompts is a good thing, I just think it's interesting that it makes people pick a false answer in an online poll, and apparently never diassemble their Glocks or practice their trigger technique.
The rule says to always treat a gun as IF it was loaded.
For instance, when I go to the gun show tomorrow I will have an unloaded gun with me. The officer at the door will check it to be certain it is unloaded and put a zip tie on it. The gun is unloaded.
Unloaded or not, the rule says I shouldn't run around the gun show pointing my unloaded gun at people; I should treat it as IF it was loaded.
Perfectly clear and easily understood.
And don't even get me started on the lack of muzzle discipline at gun shows and shotgun ranges. Sheesh.
Me, early on I had a very bad thing with a friend and classmate which marked my life.
Now, I'm not gonna turn this into a poll or some other horse****,
But I will ask all of you to be totally honest with yourselves, and,
Sitting alone by yourself
Make a list of personal AD's or close calls you have (inadvertently, of course) had in your shooting career.
I've had them, you have had them; denial is to reject root cause analysis of just why it happened, so it will never happen again.
Separate names with a comma.