Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Col. Harrumph, Sep 2, 2021.
Of course, maybe Winchesters really did look like that. Dunno.
and this is my Turnbull restored A.H Fox (Now an AE Grade with engraving and upgraded wood):
The remaining old original specimens' colors have faded over time due to age, handling, use and uncountable number of cleanings. For there to be much of the original color case hardening brilliance remaining after 150 years or so would be a rarity, indeed. I doubt Turnbull's colors are that much bolder than the originals' back in the day.
We don't know if the camera just caught the colors wrong, or if the web page biases how images are processed, and then, to top all that off, computer (and phone) screens do not display things anywhere near uniformly.
We humans are good at getting the gist out of images, but our machines can get caught up in "precision" that is or isn't there.
On this tablet, that image looks garish--but I've seen charcoal blue look that dramatic before. Now, how that would appear at home on my fancy, hi-rez monitor I can't tell you just now, Pulling it up on my phone changes the colors a bit--and adds contrast that does the image no favors at all.
Agreed !! Colors like that make it even more "unique" !
Turnbull's work is legendary . I really dig that one posted to start this thread.
I was just thinking that they missed an opportunity for fire blued screws and trigger…
But there is something to be said of the soul-stealingly deep abyss that is their polished blue.
So, they have a little something for everyone!
It looks just like the color case hardening I was seeing in photo spreads in Guns magazine in the '70s.
They didn’t have color back in those days.....only black and white.
Unlike the chemical processes, I have a feeling they will stay looking like that for some time.
Case hardening has the ability to age and get some patina, new it could have very will been that brilliant. A lot of firearms before 1900 were sold "in the white" which became a rust browning process thru handling. A well archived western would show a lot of them in bright, not brown, to be accurate. We'd still call them out for being "wrong."
Furniture has the same issues - original shellac finishes from 200 years ago were clear - to see them today, unrestored, they are black like someone slapped a coat of thin kerosene and pitch on them. However, it's half the value if removed.
"Hey I got my old grandpa's sword he served in the 5th Indiana and I cleaned it up with some steel wool and scotchbrite, what's it worth?" So, I haven't cleaned up any of the rusted speckled and ruined finish on that old Win 94 because about the next best thing to do is cerakote it and add rails, right?
Hey, maybe someone can offer that? Cerakote casehardened finish! Maybe not.
As for color rendering from electronic camera to computer thru internet processors to ISP to your screen, worst I've seen is Foliage Green. I have three pics of my finished AR from ten years ago, same camera, different backgrounds and lighting three completely different guns. I think thats why we quit it - it never looked "right." So, I'm building another with that same furniture.
Badgoofy: And I'll do it again!
Although some have a really keen eye, I remember a long time ago selling a .351 Winchester and it looked to me like a very clean, well preserved Winchester with intact bluing. I couldn't say for sure whether it had been reblued and said as much to the buyer, although I would have guessed it was original. I sent him some pretty crqppy photos from a pretty crappy phone and he just knew it wasn't original somehow. Good eye. He still bought it, it was just kind of impressive that he could tell is all.....
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