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is it legal to conceal carry a handgun on a train?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by cajun47, Jul 24, 2010.

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  1. cajun47

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    i have a louisiana concealed handgun permit. can i ccw on a train from louisiana to another state that honors my chp? im not concerned with the railroad's policy. just the law.
     
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    "...I'm not concerned with the railroad's policy..." You should be. A railroad is no different than any other private business. I think they fall under Federal rules just like a domestic airline. Call 'em and ask.
     
  3. Gryffydd

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    Err, which one is it?
    I've carried on Amtrak before. It's against their rules, but not the law--at least here in Washington. Telling us your destination would be helpful.
     
  4. Sam1911

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    In December of last year a large spending bill was signed into law that made it clear (well ... sort of) that passengers may have firearms in their CHECKED baggage.

    This is the famous "whoopsie" which actually required that the passengers be in locked boxes. :rolleyes: I haven't heard if this is fixed yet or not.
     
  5. cajun47

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    the question just popped into my head. just wondering. i would like to go to colorado one day. i do not fly, thats for the birds.
     
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    AFAIK...
    To be legal, transporting firearms on a train is the same as if you were flying.
    Meaning, it needs to be unloaded and in a locked container.
     
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    http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=27:3.0.1.2.3&idno=27#27:3.0.1.2.3.3.1.13

     
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    Allow me to change the emphasis:
    Let's also look at the title of this section:
    I'm not 100% sure that applies to the OP. I'm not saying I'm sure it doesn't either, but it just doesn't sound like it's describing a personal sidearm. Of course, the Feds like to really push the definition of interstate commerce...

    It is interesting though that the paragraph that statement is a part of is devoted entirely to the shipment of firearms.
     
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    Here is the document describing Amtrak's Checked Firearms Program.

    Here is Amtrak's general policy on firearms:

    And here is some information about Virginia allowing concealed carry on trains in that state.

    While this does not answer the OP's question, it provides a starting point for further research.
     
  10. razorback2003

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    I know local trains....like in Nashville you can carry a handgun on them. There aren't metal detectors to get on those trains. There aren't metal detectors to get on the local train in Atlanta either and i'm pretty sure it's legal now to carry on the public transit trains in the Atlanta metro area.

    I've never been on an Amtrak train.....I've heard they used to not do metal detectors from friends who rode it....kind of like a bus (where you can carry whatever you want on it). Now as far as legal...heck..that's a tough one if they don't screen passengers like airports....I guess if the handgun is small and hidden on you and you're found out you'd probably be dropped off at the next stop for breaking their policy.
     
  11. Sam1911

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    From a CBS news article back when the Senate was getting ready to pass the new legislation:

    This is the bill that was passed into law in December.

    The question seems to be, does Amtrak policy have the weight of federal law? Do violations of that policy carry penalties beyond refusal of service?

    For some reason, I can't find those answers anywhere. The recent bill would deny funding if Amtrak didn't change their POLICY, but I care less about their policy than I do about the law.
     
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    There is no law that I can find that says I can't carry on trains. It's an AmTrack policy. Big deal, kick me off.
     
  13. Sam1911

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    As a federally funded entity, this may get somewhat muddy. It would be extremely important to be sure.
     
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