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Is it possible to get a "gun buy-back" sticky?

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by Maelstrom, Aug 25, 2008.

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  1. Maelstrom

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    I was thinking about hitting up the next local buy-back and snagging a gun before the city could get a hold of it. I've heard of many others doing the same thing.

    Would it be possible to have a dedicated thread, or possibly even a sub-section of the "Buying/Selling" section?

    After all, where else can you get a mint M1 Garand for $100?

    Advertising a gun buy-back here would actually have the OPPOSITE effect it would advertising anywhere else.
     
  2. Maelstrom

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    I'll give the night guys one shot at it then give up if there's no interest.

    I just figured it'd be a good idea.
     
  3. crushbup

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    I like the idea.
     
  4. usmcpmi

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    Wow! What a Great idea! Pick up a gun from someone who doesn't want it...and keep it from being destroyed using our tax dollars! Let me know if there is anything in Central Texas.....(Although I doubt there is such a thing this far South, Seems to be a Northern problem...) MG
     
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  5. armedandsafe

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    I would definitely monitor such a thread.

    Pops
     
  6. rondog

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    Do they have those in CO?
     
  7. ltetmhs

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    Great Idea. A tear comes to my eye everytime I think how many A5's and 1911's have been destroyed.

    Kind of like a gun rescue before they are sent to the pound.
     
  8. leadcounsel

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    You should probably guess that the nice guns aren't destroyed; they end up in some crooked cops or politicians personal collection! :fire:

    In all seriousness, this is a great idea. You could pay more in CASH than the food stamps they are giving out.

    Some things to consider though:

    1) Apprehensive sellers: afterall, they want the guns off the street! They may not want to sell or they may think it's a sting operation.

    You may want to take an exerpt from the state law that says that personal transactions are legal.

    2) You may very well be buying stolen guns or guns used in a crime. I think the liklihood increases tenfold.

    3) In some areas, you may be buying a gun that is illegal in your area and but for the amnesty of the turn in would/could get you busted.

    Again, I would love to patrol the gun buyback with a big sign that says "I buy guns for $50 more than the city!" I would expect the police and others to harass you and ask you to leave and even threaten arrest. Make sure to be 100% following the law (don't buy a gun and put it in your pocket if you don't have a CCW - for instance).
     
  9. Roccobro

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    Great idea! I'd be subscribed for it. Shoot, I have some junk C&R's I could even trade the person PLUS cash so they don't feel bad...

    Justin
     
  10. Zedo

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    My understanding is that when the "buy back" is run by police you get harassed for interfering with a police operation. The people who run these sorts of programs are not sympathetic to gun owners who would purchase firearms from anonymous private parties and then put them back out "on the street."

    Despite the "no questions asked" aspect of these buy-backs, you can bet police and govt. agencies are using the programs for "intelligence gathering."
     
  11. misANTHrope

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    From what I've read, you can also expect that the cops may very well run you off.

    Oh, and I'm in. :D
     
  12. JImbothefiveth

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    I'd be carefull about trading guns here, most of these guys are probably violent criminals who SHOULD be in jail, the kind who are probably the reason many of us carry. This would likely give fuel to laws restricting gunshows, at the very least. On the other hand, you could give them something like a 36 caliber muzzleloading pistol, to make them less dangerous next time they try something, as they'll probably get another (Illegal) gun somehow. Buying guns is probably fine, though.
     
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    Man, I wonder how many old ladies sold off their late husband's war-issue 1911's, or bring-back Lugers, P-38's, etc. And all the old Colt SAA's.....
     
  14. novaDAK

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    Actually I've heard just the opposite...even in the news. Most pepole who go to gun buy backs are the type who've had a gun in their dresser drawer for 30 years and just want to get rid of it...or a widow who's husband had a gun in the closet, etc.
     
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    Just thought I'd ad something interesting.

    In the May 2008 issue of America's First Freedom, there's an article stub that details a gun buyback program in Oakland where the police department was buying up guns for $250 each.

    The Quote in the article, courtesy of the Contra Costa Times, said that the first two people in line at one of the turn-in locations were gun dealers with 60 firearms each.

    Odds are that after reading about the buyback, they put together as many junk guns and guns constructed from broken parts as they could and netted about 30K each in the deal.

    It said that by the end of the day, the Oakland police department had run out of money and started giving out IOU's and was stuck with a bill for $170,000.


    All things considered, I'd be leery of buying guns at a buyback. Most legitimate people that go down there are probably just getting rid of "jam-o-matics" and broken guns that they can't sell.

    Hell, If I lived in Oakland and had a collection of Raven's, Davis's, and Jennings that I could have sold for that price, I would have done it in a heartbeat.
     
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    There was a recent article about someone in Illinois from the gunssavelives.com group took in a couple bags full of rusty junkers, broken 22 rifles, starter pistols, cheap patent-infringement revolvers, potmetal peashooters, etc. and used the money to buy decent rifles and ammo for their youth organization.
    Oakland was paying $250 for pistols. I owuld buy a truckload of brand new HiPoints and deliver them right there for a quick $100 profit per gun. And it would help HiPoint out by selling more guns.
     
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    sticky or not great idea!

    just use common sense when buying.
    most legit sales people will be cool with a time, date, DL number, and signature of both parties, and the SN of the gun.

    Sigh, haven't heard of a buyback in SC though. I'll keep my eyes peeled though this might be alot better and cheaper than the gunshows!
     
  18. JImbothefiveth

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    I said be carefull about trading, not buying. Nothing wrong with getting these things out of Criminal's hands, maybe you could give them away(along with proper training) to a single mom or other law-abiding citizen who can't afford one, or get some nice peices for your collection, or just score a cheap gun. If they just don't wan't or don't know how to use the guns, like the people you mentioned, they likely wouldn't be trading.



    And who the seller is and what the gun is should also be noted. An old lady with a SAA is not the same is a 20-year old with baggy shorts and gang tattoos trying to sell a glock "Fo-tay". Apply some common sense here.

    I certainly don't want my gun in in a gangbanger's hands!

    Edit: I'm not saying glocks are evil! IF the old lady had the glock, the guy with gang tats had the SAA, I still wouldn't feel too good if he got a gun in the deal.
     
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    Haha...I like that idea better.

    Regarding the private sale in front of the buyback location, I'd be worried buying a hot gun or dirty gun. It's possible that a relative/friend of a criminal could be turning in a gun with or without the criminal's knowledge. Perhaps my worrying is unnecessary(?).
     
  20. hso

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    This is an interesting idea and that's why it is still up.

    First, check with the local Friends of the NRA and try to find an attorney who can provide you with the needed local information about conducting such a protest of the taxpayer's money being wasted.

    Second, do not (NOT), engage in any trades. Just pay your cash for the rescue gun.

    Third, be sure to alert the media. This is not a way for you get score some great old guns. This is an act of activism in opposition to the local government's practice of destroying perfectly good guns that the county could sell to finance more gun buys. Let them "get guns off the street" if they want to, but it is malfeasance to destroy valuable assets bought with taxpayer dollars that could generate income for the local government.

    Be certain that you have worked out what will be done with the rescued guns. Again, it is best if they don't go into your safe. Instead donate them to an RKBA group that will auction them off and make even more money on them to fight for your rights.
     
  21. novaDAK

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    Ya know, that's not a bad idea. It gives people who for any reason don't want their gun(s) anymore to get rid of them, while at the same time keeping the guns in circulation among law abiding citizens.
    I agree it is a waste of taxpayers money (and perfectly good guns in most cases) to just destroy them.
     
  22. Maelstrom

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    Just the thought of a bring-back Luger or a nice 03 Springfield getting destroyed drives me nuts.

    I have little doubt that, somewhere, some old lady carelessly turned in a $30,000 firearm, and the government cluelessly destroyed it. Some type of SAA or rare Python or something.

    The thought behind it would be, "Well my father only paid $16 for this gun when he got it from Sitting Bull so getting a $50 gift card is a great profit!"
     
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