Is it possible to identify a lock?

[rhtwist]

I would like to know if there is a resource to identify the lock on my .62 caliber flintlock pistol. I can find no markings on the lock inside or outside???

 

[GRIZ22]

I would like to know if there is a resource to identify the lock on my .62 caliber flintlock pistol. I can find no markings on the lock inside or outside???

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[Dave Markowitz]

If you post clear, well lit pictures of the inside and outside of the lock here and on the Muzzleloading Forum, someone may be able to identify it.

Take pics in natural daylight if possible.

 

[rhtwist]

If you post clear, well lit pictures of the inside and outside of the lock here and on the Muzzleloading Forum, someone may be able to identify it.

Take pics in natural daylight if possible.

Thanks and working on getting some pictures uploaded.

 

[Lefty38-55]

Also the length please …

 

[rhtwist]

Also the length please …

Alright

 

[rhtwist]

Hope these help.

 

[Dave Markowitz]

It looks very close to an L&R Ashmore flintlock. There are a few differences but it's possible there have been variances over time, or the lock may have been modified.

L&R locks are generally stamped "L&R" on the inside of the lock plate.

 

[SC45-70]

Hope these help.
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To me it looks like a John Bailes with the frizzen pivot screw put in the wrong side, the head of the screw is usually inside the lock plate.

 

[rhtwist]

It looks very close to an L&R Ashmore flintlock. There are a few differences but it's possible there have been variances over time, or the lock may have been modified.

L&R locks are generally stamped "L&R" on the inside of the lock plate.

The firearm was purchased over 20 years ago if that helps. I will double check the internals
Thank you

 

[rhtwist]

To me it looks like a John Bailes with the frizzen pivot screw put in the wrong side, the head of the screw is usually inside the lock plate.

The lock is unmodified by me, so that is the original condition on the pistol. Thanks for the reply
BTW Are the L&R Ashmore and the John Bailes considered very quality locks?

 

[hawg]

They're good locks not as good as a Chambers.

 

[rhtwist]

They're good locks not as good as a Chambers.

Good to know. I less issue on ignition. Thanks for your help

 

[rhtwist]

On the inside of the lockplate I found the letters L R stamped in. Is that confirmation??

 

[Acorn Mush]

I believe you have an L&R lock there.

 

[Dave Markowitz]

On the inside of the lockplate I found the letters L R stamped in. Is that confirmation??

Yup, I have two rifles with L&R locks and both are marked as such.

 

[rhtwist]

Mine is missing the & but I am glad to hear it is a good lock. Take care

 

[SC45-70]

The lock is unmodified by me, so that is the original condition on the pistol. Thanks for the reply
BTW Are the L&R Ashmore and the John Bailes considered very quality locks?

L&R locks are very good. I've used several and have always good luck with them!

John Bailes, right hand flint lock, by L&R - Track of the Wolf

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www.trackofthewolf.com

 

[rhtwist]

L&R locks are very good. I've used several and have always good luck with them!

John Bailes, right hand flint lock, by L&R - Track of the Wolf

Totw.Structures.Web.Parts.DescriptionDetail

www.trackofthewolf.com

I just realized that the mentioned locks are both produced by L&R, that is a relief. Thanks for the information. The internals match much more closely to the John Bails lock. Believe I am having issue with the geometry though.

 

[SC45-70]

I just realized that the mentioned locks are both produced by L&R, that is a relief. Thanks for the information. The internals match much more closely to the John Bails lock. Believe I am having issue with the geometry though.

If you are having trouble sparking I would try a knapped flint. I've never had any luck with cut flints. Set the flint to strike about 1/3 the way down from the top of the frizzen, and be sure the flint is very sharp!

 

[rhtwist]

If you are having trouble sparking I would try a knapped flint. I've never had any luck with cut flints. Set the flint to strike about 1/3 the way down from the top of the frizzen, and be sure the flint is very sharp!

Thanks for the info! Received my amber flints today and it sparks. Will have to take it to the range and see how much that improves my issues.