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Is it rude to ask someone if they are carrying?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by M-Cameron, Sep 26, 2015.

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  1. jamesjames

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    Context is everything

    As we can see by the range of responses, carrying concealed can create a social situation for which many of us are unprepared. Ironic, since by carrying concealed we are preparing for the gravest extreme social situation.

    So maybe in addition to your selection of carry firearm and holster and how to dress around it... we need to prepare ourselves for dealing with the public in different social situations when the issue of our own concealed carry comes up. After all, we practice the draw and firing of the weapon hundreds of times. Perhaps we need a primer on how respond to questions about our concealed carry without resorting to violence or rudeness. After all, we are responding out of discomfort in being questioned or discovered in concealed carry which tends to embarrass us or blow our cover. How do we not lose our cool in these situations?

    At a gunshow or dealing with a holster maker, you are dealing at a semi-professional level with people in-the-know who are part of your RKBA world. In this context we should anticipate and understand that they are a gunny, they know you are a gunny, and they may engage you on the subject. Its like consulting an attorney about legal issues or a doctor about medical issues. You know you are going to discuss personal issues and there is professional discretion and privilege that attends the discussion.

    Second is the non-threatening civilian interaction, when a older lady or a younger woman notices you are printing and asks an innocent question. This is not the time to fly off the handle, but to be able to engage with a thoughtful explanation of your responsible citizen status doing a lawful thing.

    Finally, there is the situation of being asked about it in a possible threat situation like a bar, a party, or on the street by a stranger who could pose a threat. If you are carrying and are situationally aware, you have learned to avoid these situations in the first place. But if you find yourself in the situation, it is your responsibility to de-escalate, be graceful, be positive, be creative, be confident, use humor, be magnanimous, and generally take the high road to navigate through the situation.
     
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    I'm pretty sure ROAshooter was referring to TruthTellers' statement (in post #13) that it's not rude to ask someone if they have AIDS. To TruthTellers, it's really not rude to ask anything. If you think it's not rude to go around and ask folks if they have AIDS, well then, as ROAshooter said, "When you ask that to the wrong person.....dont be surprised when you regain conciousness.";)
     
  3. Warp

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    I guess I missed the part where we were talking about having AIDS lol
     
  4. Ledgehammer

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    Every gun show I've been to has a sign at the front door explicitly stating no loaded fire arms or concealed allowed. I believe it has something to do with exactly your situation.

    I don't know that I would feel comfortable around people handling their loaded weapon while holstering and reholstering over and over. This is when most ND's happen. Not to mention the number of times I've been swept at gun shows has to be in the hundreds.

    Thinking about people trying on unfamiliar holsters with their loaded pistol gives me the heebee geebeez. Taking into consideration the number of people at a gun show...it gets pretty dicey.

    If you were carrying I don't think the purveyor would have been happy about it.
     
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  5. BSA1

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    My Gun Club puts on two big gun shows a year. Conceal carry of loaded firearm is legal and allowed inside the building.

    Firearms that folks are bring in to sell, trade, displayed, carried openly get parts and accessories for must be empty, must be inspected at the door and have the actions tied open.

    Kansas law is very specific about not allowing conceal carry inside businesses. So keep it conceal and you will have no problems. In the O.P.'s case drawing his loaded concealed firearm to see if it fit a holster would be a violation of our show rules.
     
  6. 460Shooter

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    Same here
     
  7. Warp

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    Wait...so break the law as long as you don't get caught? Or did I read something wrong?
     
  8. Ryanxia

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    Well you're not actually breaking the law since it's an unconstitutional law. :D

    I don't find the question rude at all. I do feel a bit uncomfortable if someone who knows I'm into guns but isn't a gun guy asks me in a group of other non-gun friends if I'm carrying. I always am but just say no. But if there's anyone in the group I'm socializing with that I don't know so well I don't want them to be uncomfortable (I'll gently ween them over to our side in good time like all the rest :) )
     
  9. jlr1962

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    30-06 signs in place? I would not answer the question if he was not wearing a cop badge. He might have been concerned that you were carrying, being at a gun show.
     
  10. Old Dog

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    We can carry at our gunshows up here, the gun just has to be unloaded, inspected and zip-tied at the gate, and you can't take ammo in ...

    Not a big deal. Is it rude to ask someone if they're carrying? I don't think so; maybe inappropriate given the circumstances, but I see nothing here to get wrapped around the axles about ...
     
  11. JDR

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    In the situation the OP is referring to, I can tell you that if I'm shopping for a gun holster, I would appreciate the opportunity to try it on before I bought it. I might secure the firearm in my car so that I can take the seller up on his offer to try on the holster. But in general, I tell people that I have a current license to carry and I often do but I decline to tell them whether I "am" carrying.

    Depending on where you live, this is a sensitive, politically charged subject and I think it is best to be discreet about the subject. I will only discuss firearms with firearms people. Since I work in the most restrictive state for firearms use, ownership, and possession (NJ), but live outside the state (PA), I avoid a lot of trouble by avoiding the subject of firearms with non-firearms people.
     
  12. Ryanxia

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    You might be the only gun related exposure those 'non-firearms people' get, I would consider not hiding it as much and let them see that there is a normal person that they work with and respect that happens to be a gun owner. Goes against the stereotype the media has built up for us. Non gun people hear me and some coworkers I've 'converted' talk about guns in the office all the time and sometimes they'll come up and ask to go to the range for the first time or if they bring up an anti-gun article I can point out the flaws in it. Just a thought.
     
  13. Patrick123

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    I would just look at it as a chance to talk guns.
     
  14. Tom Fury

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    "If I were...

    ...why would I tell you?" Isn't that what concealed carry is about? Keeping it concealed? Where I come from, it's not rude, it's stupid. Noneya.
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    I dont really worry about carrying concealed . If its a normal day maybe I'll throw a T shirt over a pistol but I'm rally not concerned about half the gun showing or even hanging out. Pretty much half open carry most of the time. If someone comes up and asks if I'm carrying i just assume they arent blind and want to carry on a conversation. To be honest Ive never really understood the need to carry completely concealed.
     
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    It's rude to ask someone their age, especially if they happen to be female; not so much if you're asking about CC.
     
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    If they are close enough to you that it's any of your business just give them a big ole hug and you can feel for yourself.
     
  18. Wil Terry

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    IT IS RUDE to ask someone anything that is NONE of your G.D. business !

    And so it goes...
     
  19. buck460XVR

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    .....and then there's, "Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?"
     
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    It's not a question I'd ask because it's none of my business and I don't care.
    It's not a question I'd care if someone asked me because I don't care if they know, I'd simply answer them.
     
  21. Warp

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    If the law says you can't do it, yes, you are actually breaking the law.

    That's why you are talking about being so careful to conceal it...because you are breaking the law and you know it, and you will be punished if you are caught.

    Not really high road stuff if you ask me.
     
  22. JN01

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    Shows around here don't allow loaded guns or magazines, but once they have been checked, you can carry them however you want to.

    I don't like leaving my carry gun in the car, particularly at a venue like a gun show where thieves might be more tempted to break in. I will unload it in the car and leave the magazine in the console, have the gun cleared at the show entrance, then holster it in my concealed holster. If you don't conceal it, then a bunch of people will ask what your sale price is.

    Asking if you are carrying is one of those none-of-your-business questions that are at least mildly rude.
     
  23. BSA1

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    Warp,

    Maybe the way I worded my post is confusing. If so my bad.

    In my club's gun shows it is legal to carry a loaded concealed firearm inside the show. No law is being broken.

    Guns that are being carried openly for sale, trade, looking for parts and accessories must be empty, inspected at the door and have the action tied open.
     
  24. Ledgehammer

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    "Around here" they clear your gun and then zip tie the chamber open. It's not going in my holster like that...

    Silly topic really. He asked because you're not "supposed" to be doing it in there. Its not even remotely rude. Look up gun show ND's. There's quite a few. That and the fact the dealers are asking pretty much full retail are why I can't find a reason to attend one anymore.
     
  25. Ledgehammer

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    Open carry is legal in Colorado BSA.
     
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