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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by floritucky, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. floritucky

    floritucky Member

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    long story short. bad divorce 3 years ago and i had to put stuff in storage. thought it would be a couple months.... i just pulled it out after 3 years. it was climate controlled (though i dont know what temps) the bulk of my ammo was in that unit. mostly in ammo cans (though not all of it) but nothing was placed in the ammo cans to control humidity (i am in Florida, fyi). i have no idea what the shelf life for ammo is.

    secondly, i had 2 ammo cans that were actually in my parents garage (not climate controlled) that i didnt even know were there (I thought it was all in storage). so my question also pertains to 2 ammo cans that were not climate controlled for 3 years.

    we are talking rifle ammo, pistol ammo, shotgun, and .22

    safe to shoot? safe to trust to go bang? i really hope i didnt ruin it. a good penny worth and we all know the current ammo situation.

    I had to sell most (but not all) of my firearms at the time do to the situation and am trying to really get back into the hobby i enjoy.
     
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  2. Deus Machina

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    Judge by looking at it.
    If the boxes aren't warped or humidity-damaged and nothing's corroded, it's good.
    I'm still shooting Russian ammunition packaged in the 60s and 80s, and I doubt it was stored any better.
     
  3. gunlaw

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    If it looks good shoot it. I’ve shot WWI ammo. No problems. Last week shot some reloads from 2005.
     
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  4. EccentricInTexas

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    I have shot surplus ammo from 1930's with no real issues. It should be ok. About the only way it goes bad is when it gets wet.
     
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  5. hdwhit

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    I re-loaded roughly 1,000 rounds of 223 Remington between 1981 and 1982. The bulk of it was stored in a garage in Northern Arkansas in ex-cigar cardboard boxes, the remainder was stored in Ziploc bags in a garage in North Texas.

    When, by 2014 (i.e. 32 years), I recovered sufficiently from a neurological condition, roughly 2% of the cases had suffered corrosion to the point I was afraid to shoot them. Every other case I have fired since has so far shot just fine - and despite the age of the powder, at between 92-98% of the velocity it had when it was loaded and test-fired in the 1980's.
     
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  6. pharmer

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    Climate controlled storage is generally between 52- 85 degrees F. Perfect for ammo storage. I'm shooting 15 y/o average ammo bought during "cheap" times. Shoot it and don't worry. I'll bet some sellers are sending 3 y/o ammo out routinely. Joe
     
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  7. sourdough44

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    I just ‘reclaimed’ a fair amount of old military 308 ammo. This is 1980’s vintage, in an unheated garage. I went through & wiped with an oily rag. For the handful with rough areas on the case I used fine steel wool.

    Was this time consuming, yes. I looked at it as easier & quicker that reloading 300 rounds. I have a few where I may just pull the bullets. These will be used for casual range shooting, previous of the same type have shot fine. The cases will be discarded.
     
  8. 243winxb

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    Hot weather is not good for powders.. Shoot if no problem like hang fires.

    Bad powder will produce click/bang on firing. Hang fires. Had hang fires with very old 30-06 Gi surplus ammo.

    Pull bullets. Scrap powder & brass. Reuse modern primers & bullet. If powder has attacked base of bullet, clean with steel wool.
     
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  9. alsaqr

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    Properly stored, small arms ammunition is good for 50 years or more. i'm shooting .30 caliber ball ammunition made during WWII: Every round fires.
     
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  10. Riomouse911

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    Many of us have gone down that same rocky divorce road as well, it’s never fun and often very painful. I wish you the best and truly hope you’re able to put it all in the past and look forward to the future.

    When my ex moved out in 1996 I slowly replaced the space her car took up in my garage with tools and reloading stuff. Over the years it filled in quite nicely. :)

    My wife and I have been married for the past 17 years and we have three kids. Somehow she tolerates my shooting/gun habit and the kids’ motorcycle habits. I spent several years after the divorce sampling, but I’ve found out that she is the best person I’ve ever met ;).

    You’ll be fine to go out and shoot the ammo you stored... use the time at the range as another step to even greater tomorrow’s. :thumbup:

    Stay safe.
     
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  11. GAF

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    Maybe 14 or 15 years ago I was given a few boxes of this. It had been stored in the attic of an old garage for who knows how long.
    Some round were corroded but not too many. I threw out the corroded rounds and shot the rest. Every round fired and it shot as well
    as the new ammo I had sitting on the bench.
     
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  12. bdickens

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    Ammunition is generally pretty robust.
     
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  13. Tommygunn

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    Your ammo is bad. Send it all to me and I'll make sure it's disposed of safely! :evil:

    :D;) ........ :rofl:
     
  14. FL-NC

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    My ammo lives in metal ammo cans in a job-box in a unheated/uncooled shed in Fl. Our ammo and explosives were stored in shipping containers in afg.- we could have stored meat in those things in the winter and steamed shrimp in them in the summer. No issues.
     
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    Appearance will tell you a lot. If it looks okay without verdigris (green fuzz) it is probably just fine.
     
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  16. Palladan44

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    Ive done a lot of research on the topic, because ive wondered the same myself. Also have personal experience. Ammo when stored in ammo cans lasts a long long time. If it is also in the original packaging, and has been un handled, that is a big bonus. HEAT and MOISTURE are the 2 biggest enemies. In sealed ammo can, unless there was a flood i doubt moisture got to it. As long as it didnt get over 130 degrees farenheit for a consistent period.......youre fine. (Maybe on the dash of a hot black car parked in Tucson in summer could do it in theory)
    Heat like such can degrade primer compound and certain powders.

    Its important to leave Ammo untouched in the original packaging if youre not going to use it, or you risk tainting it with your salty fingerprints. (This is nipping at the bud here) (People who have seen green fingerprints on their ammo know what im talking about)
    Ammo that has been tainted by weather or handling can corrode to the point of not being able to be chambered in as little as a few years. Its important to keep "weathered" or "handled" ammo in the lineup so its fired next, because if it gets backlogged in your stockpile for many years it will corrode faster than Ammo that has not been touched, guaranteed. (Again, nipping at the bud)

    I use silica Gel dessicant in my ammo cans which helps absorb moisture in the can once you seal it.
    Buying silica gel packets is a little pricey if you have a big stock of ammo, so if you purchase the odorless cat litter, and put a tablespoon of this in a coffee filter, or small sock, and zip tie shut it serves the same function. Highly recommended to protect your ammo investment. Remember to do ammo can inspections (if youre going to peek in a long term storage) to do so during dry periods with low humidity (for me here in WI its in winter time) and change out the silica Gel packet if you want to maintain "optimal" storage conditions.
    Dont worry, your ammo is probably fine and will be for decades upon decades.
     
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  17. Howland937

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    I don't know when Federal stopped making their Lightning .22's, but I know it's been at least 15 years. I stocked up for a couple of rifles that love them, and still have a couple thousand. They're just as consistent and accurate as they ever were.

    I've got shotgun ammo that I know is 30 years old that still works fine.
     
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  18. Old Dog

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    I just shot two boxes of old Remington Core-Lokt .30-06 (that I'd bought in the early '80s) when I went out to sight in my deer rifle. (The only reason I used it was I was actually caught a little short for hunting rounds, as I thought (1) my stock was better and (2) that the premium hunting rounds wouldn't be snapped up like the 9mm, .45 and .223/5.56 due to the panic buying and hoarding).

    The brass was a little tarnished, but the boxes displayed no sign of exposure to moisture or excessive humidity, primers looked fine.

    It all went bang.

    My local Sportsman's Warehouse had four boxes of ought-6 on the shelves today, Norma and Hornady premium stuff for 47 and 49 bucks a box. I had this vision of some old dude with his crusty old Garand shooting off a few rounds at $2.45 a pop...
     
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  19. D.B. Cooper

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    Unless the ammo is corroded, you're fine. Shoot it. I left several pounds of 4895 and Winchester LR primers in my Dad's not climate controlled metal shed for 15 years. It all worked fine. My uncle gave me some 30-30 ammo from the 1950s that he bought at an estate sale. Out of 3 boxes, two rounds didn't fire on the first try, and both fired on the second try. As long it wasn't submerged in water, it will go bang.
     
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  20. herrwalther

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    Short of being stored underwater or in oil there isn't much that will completely kill ammo. Look at the ammo. Look for deformations in the case, corrosion, anything of what ammo shouldn't look like. If it was stored in cardboard boxes, those can be a great moisture indicator. Take a look at the box itself. Is it rusty inside? That is another moisture indicator. I have fired ammo that was decades old that was stored properly and kept dry. I have also thrown out ammo because I found it in a dripping, soggy box at the bottom of a truck tool box.
     
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  21. Ru4real

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    Smell is the best way to tell. Bad ammunition has a distinct odor and you will know instantly it is bad.
     
  22. cslinger

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    The evil in me wants to tell you that it is extremely dangerous and I will dispose of properly for you. :evil:

    The Catholic school kid full of pesky morals and PITA ethics will tell you he has shot fairly crappy WWI ammo with the most common “problem” being a short hangfire or three.

    I simply cannot imagine you will see ANY issues with your ammo and anything out of the ordinary will not be anything dangerous. (A little weak, a little hot, a dud, a SHORT hangfire etc.) and I honestly don’t think you will have any of that.

    Short answer, your are good to go. But I am available to “properly dispose” of your ammo should you like. :)
     
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  23. caribou

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    I wish I could keep enough ammo to have some 'old ammo'....LOL!!
     
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  24. 3Crows

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    It is fine.
     
  25. mjsdwash

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    thats the normal price for the premium stuff give or take right? Its been a while, but the 8mm I shoot runs close to that. I only ask because I was at a Sportsman's warehouse a few weeks ago and prices were decent, though stock was near not existent, except .40 s/w.
     
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